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DanPBD
07-17-2007, 12:44 AM
Hello, my name is Dan. I have been really thinking about hiking up Mt. Washington. I have a place near Laconia, I've been to the top via the road before. I'm in good shape and do the Belknap mountain all the time and walk stairs all day at work. In 2004, when I was at a prep school I participated in an Outdoor Education class where we did hikes, canoeing, camping, and other activities. With that being said, I know all about the leave no trace principles. I also understand that being prepared is the most important thing, and I'd be sure to have everything(Just giving details so I can have better details) :o
I have been reading the threads and the trail that sounds great to me is the Ammo/Crawford and Jewell loop; it sounds most appealing to what I'd like. My question is: are these trails easy to follow, ie. trail markers, paint markers? Will I know when to cross the streams? etc...any help on this?

I also plan on doing it solo. I know that might sound iffy to some, but I plan on being fully prepared and beginning bright and early in the morning, that way my ascent and descent is before later afternoon. I also might have someone drive to the top to meet me there to take pictures and stuff. I loved the outdoor ed. course I did, and love going up the Belknap. I'm really doing this for self-achievement. Any comments welcome! Thanks!

Bill O
07-17-2007, 06:27 AM
Generally, trails up Mount Washington are very easy to follow. Below treeline blazes and a lack of trees will guide the way. Above treeline there are large rock cairns and painted blazes. Not to mention really good signage at intersections.

Brad
07-17-2007, 08:39 AM
Here are pictures of those trails I did with my grandson last summer.

http://public.fotki.com/bradbradstreet/hikes/2006_hikes/07_mtwashdakota/

It is a nice hike with excellent views - if the weather is good. There is a lot of open exposed trail - so, watching the weather is very important.

FisherCat
07-17-2007, 12:11 PM
Hi Dan,
Yes the Ammo-Jewell loop is your best bet. Its enjoyable for all ages and skills. Keep an eye on the weather, on descent, assuming you descend on Jewell, you get a bit of exposure without any bail-out other trail options.That being said,enjoy!Write a follow-up when you're done.

Charlie
07-17-2007, 01:19 PM
Here are pictures of those trails I did with my grandson last summer.


It is a nice hike with excellent views - if the weather is good. There is a lot of open exposed trail - so, watching the weather is very important.


and make sure if the sun is out to have sun blocker ,i know i got a little sun burn

DanPBD
07-17-2007, 02:36 PM
Thanks for your replies...and by the way those pictures are beautiful, and I can't wait to see those shots in person. I plan on taking as many pictures as possible also, but of course not any wheres near as good as those ones....What do you think about doing it alone? Like I said I'd be completely prepared, and really want to do it myself anyways. I'm 22, my parents are a little skeptical of me doing it by myself, yet I'd like to have my dad meet me at the top anyways. From what you said about the trails being easy to follow, I feel a lot better now, because that was my main concern. So as long as they're easy to follow and I'll be armed with a trail map, I should be all set. Thanks again...Depending if no other plans come up I'm looking at this Saturday.

Steve M
07-17-2007, 03:05 PM
Thanks for your replies...and by the way those pictures are beautiful, and I can't wait to see those shots in person. I plan on taking as many pictures as possible also, but of course not any wheres near as good as those ones....What do you think about doing it alone? Like I said I'd be completely prepared, and really want to do it myself anyways. I'm 22, my parents are a little skeptical of me doing it by myself, yet I'd like to have my dad meet me at the top anyways. From what you said about the trails being easy to follow, I feel a lot better now, because that was my main concern. So as long as they're easy to follow and I'll be armed with a trail map, I should be all set. Thanks again...Depending if no other plans come up I'm looking at this Saturday.
Most likely you won't be alone on the trail. This time of year that trail is very popular, esp. on the weekend. When you get to the hut you will probably see lots of people. Have a great time and be sure to post a trip report and photos for our viewing pleasure!:)

Brad
07-17-2007, 03:14 PM
Thanks for your replies...and by the way those pictures are beautiful, and I can't wait to see those shots in person. I plan on taking as many pictures as possible also, but of course not any wheres near as good as those ones....What do you think about doing it alone? Like I said I'd be completely prepared, and really want to do it myself anyways. I'm 22, my parents are a little skeptical of me doing it by myself, yet I'd like to have my dad meet me at the top anyways. From what you said about the trails being easy to follow, I feel a lot better now, because that was my main concern. So as long as they're easy to follow and I'll be armed with a trail map, I should be all set. Thanks again...Depending if no other plans come up I'm looking at this Saturday.
Doing the hike alone is fine. It is not hard or very long. However, if there is a problem, being alone adds to the issues to deal with. I have done it alone - but, I know the trails. And there will be others out there. Personally I would not do a trail I did not know up there alone. After doing it once I might consider it. I have seen too many people get in over their heads and need help.

FisherCat
07-17-2007, 04:00 PM
Definitely agree with last two postings. The trails will be crowded enough that you will see people coming up and going down. If you are concerned about weather conditions this will present you with opportunities to inquire what they've been thru and what its like ahead. Stopping at LoC Hut will also give you the opportunity to check weather conditions. You've also taken a good step if hiking alone, and that is informing others (i.e. family)of where you're going and how long you should be gone. Have fun!

Brad
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
In some cases I have found that I can send a text message off a cell phone when a voice call may not go through. I let folks in my family know what trails I will be doing if I am going it alone. If my son is around (in NC), I text message to him my status as i hit key junctions as he knows the trails well and can relay the information to others if needed.

Charlie
07-17-2007, 08:40 PM
thats a good idea brad .
i have nextel and it was out more then in service :eek:

DanPBD
07-18-2007, 01:26 PM
Thanks again for the replies...It looks like the weather is going to be a little iffy for the remainder of the week...I don't mind if its going to be cloudy or foggy, but I certainly would just go another day if I'm positive its going to rain. Perhaps as I keep looking at the weather, Saturday will be the good day.

Lynntern
07-19-2007, 05:25 PM
What do you think about doing it alone? Like I said I'd be completely prepared, and really want to do it myself anyways. I'm 22, my parents are a little skeptical of me doing it by myself, yet I'd like to have my dad meet me at the top anyways.

As far as I have noticed, age (to a reasonable extent) is not the most significant factor. I am 20 and have hiked up alone twice this summer. The main factor is preparedness. The key is to realize that weather can differ dramatically from the base to the summit, think of this when packing. Also, remember that there is no shame in turning back before reaching the summit if the weather is bad or it is getting late.

Bill O
07-19-2007, 05:29 PM
I used to hike up and ski Tuck's by myself when I was 15. If you don't inlcude the 2,000 plus strangers in the ravine. Considering the army thinks you were old enough, 4 years ago, to kick down terrorist doors in Afghanistan. You can probably handle yourself on Mount Washington.

Steve M
07-19-2007, 07:06 PM
I used to hike up and ski Tuck's by myself when I was 15. If you don't inlcude the 2,000 plus strangers in the ravine. Considering the army thinks you were old enough, 4 years ago, to kick down terrorist doors in Afghanistan. You can probably handle yourself on Mount Washington.
I don't know...those chipmunks can be very aggressive!

DanPBD
07-19-2007, 07:33 PM
HAHA you guys are funny. It looks like Saturday might be a decent day after all. The Valley forecast says mostly sunny. I'll have to see how the summit forecast will be when it updates all day tomorrow. With all the showers around lately, the rivers should be flowing good!

Brad
07-19-2007, 08:10 PM
HAHA you guys are funny. It looks like Saturday might be a decent day after all. The Valley forecast says mostly sunny. I'll have to see how the summit forecast will be when it updates all day tomorrow. With all the showers around lately, the rivers should be flowing good!
Take your kayak for the downhill leg (paddle). In the winter folks take a small sled for the return home.

DanPBD
07-19-2007, 08:43 PM
Where can I buy a good trail map locally, without going to Pinkham notch visitor center, because since I'm going to the lot before the marshfield station, obviously, I'm pretty much no wheres near the visitor center.

Brad
07-19-2007, 08:54 PM
I would check Eastern Mountain Sports in N Conway. Or order online.

http://www.ems.com/locator/locator_store.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302 375003

Bill O
07-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Where can I buy a good trail map locally, without going to Pinkham notch visitor center, because since I'm going to the lot before the marshfield station, obviously, I'm pretty much no wheres near the visitor center.

What about the Highland Center in Crawford Notch? Do they sell anything there? Probably your best shot near Marshfield Base.

FisherCat
07-19-2007, 09:59 PM
I believe Bill is on to something, they do sell maps and stuff at Highland Center

Steve M
07-20-2007, 01:08 PM
Yes you can get trail maps as well as trail guide books including the AMC White Mountain with maps in the back.

http://www.mountwashington.org/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_7_9&products_id=28

DanPBD
07-20-2007, 09:20 PM
So far, it appears tomorrow should be a great day to hike as far as the weather is concerned. Thanks for answering all my questions, and I'll try and post some pictures!

Steve M
07-21-2007, 07:09 AM
So far, it appears tomorrow should be a great day to hike as far as the weather is concerned. Thanks for answering all my questions, and I'll try and post some pictures!
Have fun, stay on the trail, and watch those nasty chipmunks!!!

Brad
07-21-2007, 08:40 AM
So far, it appears tomorrow should be a great day to hike as far as the weather is concerned. Thanks for answering all my questions, and I'll try and post some pictures!
As of 8:30 AM the Deck Cam is in the clouds. Hope it clears a bit for them.

You can go back and see prior Deck Cam images if you do not want to stay glued to the computer all day. Go to http://public.fotki.com/MWO/saved/2007/deck_archive/ and see the older 15-munite Deck Cam images.

Brad
07-21-2007, 02:11 PM
Tip of the Day

Before heading to the summit add the following URL to your favorites in your cell phone. When you get to the deck you can view the Deck Camera on your phone and see if the camera got you or not. You can even do a retake 15 minutes later.

http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/deck/deck.jpg

DanPBD
07-21-2007, 07:36 PM
Well unfortunately I didnt get the message about the deck cam, that was because I left around 430am (from 20 min north of boston). As I was getting close, it appeared as if it was going to be almost a perfectly clear day, however, I thought too soon, as when I pulled onto 302, the clouds were really ominous looking. I started up the trail at 8am. I bet a lot of beginners think too early that the trail is easy, but once you get in the thick of things, man what a hike!! Breathtaking waterfall views. There were also quite a bit of people on the trail. When I got to the LOC Hut, I took a pretty lengthy rest (30-40min) before heading up to the summit. Just as I was leaving the hut, the wind was very very gusty and cold. Lots of people were bundling up, as did I, but about 20 minutes afterward, the wind died down, and I began to get really hot. I was laughin to myself, because when you see the summit towers you think its only about 10-15 minutes away...yet it ends up being 40 minutes or so. I think I did that to myself about 3 times after leaving the hut. haha. I was trying to time my summit arrival a little bit, so my dad could take some pictures of me on the summit. The summit looking east had pretty good visibility, I think it was about 50 miles. Good enough for some good pictures, I suppose, but there were clouds at my back the entire way. Winds were about 24 with gusts of around 50, which I did experience a couple times, just after leaving the hut. Summit temp was in the upper 40s. Going down was spectacular! Overall I completely enjoyed myself, and totally satisfied that I can say that I hiked it. I'll try and get a couple pics for you all to see.

Brad
07-21-2007, 08:25 PM
Dan,

Sounds like you had a good day! Take a look at the thread at http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181&page=12 and maybe the West camera caught you as you were going by.

FisherCat
07-21-2007, 08:47 PM
Sounds like you had a great time Dan, and things went as you expected. What time did you summit? And look foward to any pics you get done.

Steve M
07-21-2007, 09:04 PM
Ditto, Awesome hike eh, I will be doing it next week...Can't wait!!!

Brad
07-21-2007, 10:13 PM
Ditto, Awesome hike eh, I will be doing it next week...Can't wait!!!
Can I get in shape in a week?

DanPBD
07-21-2007, 11:56 PM
Sounds like you had a great time Dan, and things went as you expected. What time did you summit? And look foward to any pics you get done.

I summited just after 1pm, I think. It doesn't look like the camera got me. I was wearing a bright red jacket through the alpine zone.

Steve M
07-22-2007, 06:59 AM
Can I get in shape in a week?
Sure, but then you would be too worn out for the hike.

Brad
07-22-2007, 07:06 AM
Sure, but then you would be too worn out for the hike.
That is like my running each year. Bridgton, Maine has a 4 mile road race on July 4th (4 on the 4th). I ran it it this year and therefore know exactly how many miles I will run this year. 4 miles.

DanPBD
07-22-2007, 01:21 PM
Okay, here are a few pics of my hike:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2653/p7210277jr4.jpg (Gem Pool)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5778/p7210291hs3.jpg (Beautiful Large Waterfall)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7564/p7210318iu3.jpg (Conditions Leaving Hut, Very Windy also winds were probably about 33mph with stronger gusts)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7444/p7210373sx7.jpg (Very good view, considering conditions)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5205/p7210372dy9.jpg (Me at official summit)

Brad
07-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Okay, here are a few pics of my hike:

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2653/p7210277jr4.jpg (Gem Pool)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5778/p7210291hs3.jpg (Beautiful Large Waterfall)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7564/p7210318iu3.jpg (Conditions Leaving Hut, Very Windy also winds were probably about 33mph with stronger gusts)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7444/p7210373sx7.jpg (Very good view, considering conditions)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5205/p7210372dy9.jpg (Me at official summit)
Great pictures. Glad you had a good time.

Steve M
07-22-2007, 03:51 PM
Thanks for sharing. Looks like the streams are high from all the rain.