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Maksutov
09-08-2007, 02:23 AM
Here's a picture of Mt. Washington I took from Mt. Clay during my second climb up The Rockpile back in July 1963.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7342/mtwashingtonfrommtclay1jr5.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mtwashingtonfrommtclay1jr5.jpg)

As you can see, the summit has changed a bit since then. The large building over near the homestretch is (IIRC) the Air Force icing study lab. A close examination reveals two cog railway trains just above the Great Gulf.

Sorry it's B&W. I was doing my own processing back then and B&W was all I could afford.

I'll add more later.

Brad
09-08-2007, 04:20 AM
Folks, if you click on the thumbnail Mak provided you go to the large version of the image. It looks like you can see the old hotel on the summit.

Great picture.

Tim&Val
09-08-2007, 06:09 AM
That's a great picture! Such detail, with the Great Gulf and the Cog! And don't apologize for the B&W - I think it's a striking photo in B&W.

Valerie

Gorque
09-08-2007, 06:52 AM
Thanks for posting the picture. It nce to be able to compare current views with those from the past.

Steve M
09-08-2007, 07:53 AM
Great shot, There is a small building off to the left, just off the auto road. Anyone know what that one is?

Charlie
09-08-2007, 09:59 AM
nice photo you should summit some of your old pictures to the Photo Journal

thanks for sharing

Mike D
09-08-2007, 11:16 AM
Great shot, There is a small building off to the left, just off the auto road. Anyone know what that one is?


The large building over near the homestretch is (IIRC) the Air Force icing study lab.

This is the area now called the Helipad; located near the enormous kerosene tanks.

Maksutov
09-08-2007, 10:12 PM
Folks, if you click on the thumbnail Mak provided you go to the large version of the image. It looks like you can see the old hotel on the summit.That's it, prominent to the left of the Tip Top House. My climbing party and I stayed there that evening. Probably not that many folks left who can say they stayed overnight on The Rockpile in semi-luxurious accommodations.
Great picture.Thank you very much.

More to come.

Maksutov
09-09-2007, 03:58 AM
OK, going back to July, 1963.

As previously noted by Brad, these are thumbnails. Clicking on them will direct you to the full-sized images. In the interest of those who have dial-up, I've compressed the "full-sized" images drastically so they will load quickly.

My first climb of Mt. Washington involved getting to Mt. Monroe first (something called the Crawford Path after Pleasant Dome).

Here's a view of the Lakes of the Clouds hut from Mt. Monroe. Even back then it was known as the Highland Hilton at the Lakes of the Crowds.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2642/19630723amclotchutwa0.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723amclotchutwa0.jpg)

A zoom-in. Notice the methodology re air conditioning. And the outdoor conveniences. The hut's a little bigger now.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5565/19630723amclotchutteleaj1.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723amclotchutteleaj1.jpg)

Once down from Monroe, a look-back was in order

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4422/19630723mtmonroejr8.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723mtmonroejr8.jpg)

Even 44 years ago trail erosion was an issue.

Then up the scramble. It's always fun to check on the climbing party straggler and as he's getting ready to take a shot of the view, shout "Hey!" Then "click".

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6209/19630723lookingbackmtmoyk8.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723lookingbackmtmoyk8.jpg)

Once on the summit of Mt. Washington all real climbers want to go somewhere else. For first-timers somewhere else is Tucks. Here's a member of the group looking over the ravine.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1190/19630723tucksml4.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723tucksml4.jpg)

A nice thing about being the main photographer is you're behind the camera. But here's an exception where someone else took the shot. A nice view of snow in Tucks in late July.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3402/19630723tuckssnowlx7.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19630723tuckssnowlx7.jpg)

I had many more photographs of these climbs, but, for some strange reason, when I got divorced, they disappeared.

Oh well.

That was a wonderful July, coursing over the Presidential Range.

Pure exhilaration.

Maksutov
09-09-2007, 04:04 AM
nice photo you should summit some of your old pictures to the Photo JournalWhat's the Photo Journal?
thanks for sharingYou're welcome. Happy to do so.

Brad
09-09-2007, 05:49 AM
What's the Photo Journal?
There is a section of the MWO site where they display photos which have been submitted by us folks.

http://www.mountwashington.org/photos/journal/

Maksutov
09-11-2007, 04:11 AM
There is a section of the MWO site where they display photos which have been submitted by us folks.

http://www.mountwashington.org/photos/journal/Thanks for your help. I'll add a few shots if that is allowed. The intro does say that they want digital photographs.

I guess good old film-based prints that have been scanned are considered to be digital photographs.

Gorque
09-11-2007, 08:03 AM
Thank you for the posting of the pictures. It's interesting looking at how things have changed, such as the addition on LoC Hut and especially on the backpacks and clothing.

Maksutov
09-13-2007, 10:43 PM
Great shot, There is a small building off to the left, just off the auto road. Anyone know what that one is?
The large building over near the homestretch is (IIRC) the Air Force icing study lab.This is the area now called the Helipad; located near the enormous kerosene tanks.Here's a photo of that building from near the summit, after my third climb of Mt. Washington, this time from the east side via the Tuckerman Ravine trail. This was in early August, 1964.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1157/mwnviewfromsummit196408ga7.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mwnviewfromsummit196408ga7.jpg)

Steve M
09-13-2007, 11:46 PM
That building was huge. Is that some type of air funnel coming out of it?

Maksutov
09-14-2007, 12:15 AM
Once again this is from memory, but I'm pretty sure that was part of a wind tunnel which supplied the required air acceleration to produce the equivalent of aircraft icing conditions. The ambient temperature during the cold months did the rest. Always struck me as ironic having a wind tunnel on Mt. Washington.

If what I've written is any way in error, corrections are welcome.

Brad
09-14-2007, 05:23 AM
I was always told the large funnel was for the aircraft engine exhaust. Not sure I had a good source of that information.

Mak, would you be willing to let me post these old pictures in a special album on our MWO Fotki web site? I can get them copied over when you post each one to imageshack. I would love to make sure they are available for folks to see over time.

KD Talbot
09-14-2007, 08:46 AM
I'm with Brad. I believe that funnel is for jet engine exhaust. Some of the experimenting was to see how the engines held up in sub-zero conditions. It's funny, my memory isn't the greatest, but I always thought this building stood on the other side of the road in the cow pasture. It is obviously right beside Ball Crag. Maybe I'm thinking of the barracks?

In the upper left corner of the picture is the old water tower for the Cog. The remains are still there in the form of a large wooden cover outside the visitor entrance to the Sherman Adams Building.

KDT

Maksutov
09-14-2007, 07:59 PM
[edit]Mak, would you be willing to let me post these old pictures in a special album on our MWO Fotki web site? I can get them copied over when you post each one to imageshack. I would love to make sure they are available for folks to see over time.Feel free to do so.

Would higher resolution scans be a good thing? The images I've posted are mostly in the 50 to 120KB range, file size-wise, to assure that folks with dial-up will be able to see them without waiting too long for them to load. A highly-accurate 300DPI scan usually winds up being around 3MB or so.

Brad
09-14-2007, 08:32 PM
Feel free to do so.

Would higher resolution scans be a good thing? The images I've posted are mostly in the 50 to 120KB range, file size-wise, to assure that folks with dial-up will be able to see them without waiting too long for them to load. A highly-accurate 300DPI scan usually winds up being around 3MB or so.
Fotki can accept the higher resolution files. 3-6MB files are no problem. When the file is added they store the original file, and produce 2 smaller images. One is for the thumbnail view and the other is for normal browsing.

I just set up an album for you, gave it an e-mail address and you just email each image file when you have it to the address. Fotki will post the file for you. Give it a try and see how it works. Send one image file at a time as an attachment.

Send it to mwo+mak@fotki.com - yes, the address has a plus sign in it. mwo.mak@fotki.com should work too. If this does not work well for you, let me know and I can give you the password in a private message and you can upload the files directly.

It would be great to have them on the site!

bclark
09-16-2007, 04:45 PM
Awesome pictures....thanks for sharing! I love looking at old pictures of the summit...it's very intriguing to me to see how many buildings there used to be up here and how big they were. I especially like the picture of the Air Force research building, I didn't realize it was so big! I wonder how they kept that funnel from being destroyed during the winter.

It's also interesting to think about how incredibly difficult, maybe even impossible, to build something like that up here these days. Not that I'm even sure I would want something like that built up here again.


Probably not that many folks left who can say they stayed overnight on The Rockpile in semi-luxurious accommodations.

I have :D

Bill O
09-16-2007, 05:20 PM
I have :D

Are you talking about a different Mount Washington Observatory?

Charlie
09-16-2007, 05:36 PM
Are you talking about a different Mount Washington Observatory?


did you get to sleep in the bunks up there now . I DID .just don't get up quick in the middle of the night [ or you will get a big bump on the head ]

but i would love to do it again

Bill O
09-16-2007, 07:05 PM
did you get to sleep in the bunks up there now . I DID .just don't get up quick in the middle of the night [ or you will get a big bump on the head ]

but i would love to do it again

Just a little over 100 nights.

While I would consider the lodging far from luxurious I have to admit that I slept very well on the summit.

Charlie
09-16-2007, 08:13 PM
Just a little over 100 nights.

While I would consider the lodging far from luxurious I have to admit that I slept very well on the summit.

i to got a good night sleep and wish to do it again

Steve M
09-16-2007, 10:43 PM
i to got a good night sleep and wish to do it again
Y'all will just have to wait your turn, I'm next.:D

bclark
09-17-2007, 12:59 PM
Are you talking about a different Mount Washington Observatory?

Haha, no I speak of the same one you spent plenty of time in Bill. IMHO, we have very comfortable living quarters here. I'm not even going to pretend like we rough it. Perhaps it has changed since your stint up here though...

Bill O
09-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Perhaps it has changed since your stint up here though...

Only if you got rid of the bunk beds and 15 year old couches. I agree, it is surprisingly comfortable. I would describe it as more hostel than hotel like though.

For those of you who haven't stayed in the guest bunkroom since 2005 I spent several days improving the space between bunks. Head bumps have been reduced by 73%.

Maksutov
10-05-2007, 02:26 AM
Hi Brad,

Hey, it worked. I tried a lower resolution picture first, figuring I can replace it if it gets through.

I'll be posting the rest of the 1963 photos in a bit.

These will be followed by pictures of climbs in August 1964, May 1965 (snow, and in color!), and July 1965. Plus a few treks in the Franconias in 1966 and the southern Presidentials in 1967. And skiing in Tucks in 1968/69.

BTW, there's a gap between 1970 and 1980. I got married in 1971 and so there was no more mountain climbing until I got divorced in 1980. The 1970 Mt. Washington climb in August was with the girlfriend before my wife-to-be. For some strange reason those pictures mysteriously disappeared during the 70s. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/566/iconwink6tn.gif

Like the photo album page. Nice set up.

Thanks!


Fotki can accept the higher resolution files. 3-6MB files are no problem. When the file is added they store the original file, and produce 2 smaller images. One is for the thumbnail view and the other is for normal browsing.

I just set up an album for you, gave it an e-mail address and you just email each image file when you have it to the address. Fotki will post the file for you. Give it a try and see how it works. Send one image file at a time as an attachment.

Send it to mwo+mak@fotki.com - yes, the address has a plus sign in it. mwo.mak@fotki.com should work too. If this does not work well for you, let me know and I can give you the password in a private message and you can upload the files directly.

It would be great to have them on the site!

Brad
10-05-2007, 07:35 AM
Hi Brad,

Hey, it worked. I tried a lower resolution picture first, figuring I can replace it if it gets through.

I'll be posting the rest of the 1963 photos in a bit.

These will be followed by pictures of climbs in August 1964, May 1965 (snow, and in color!), and July 1965. Plus a few treks in the Franconias in 1966 and the southern Presidentials in 1967. And skiing in Tucks in 1968/69.

BTW, there's a gap between 1970 and 1980. I got married in 1971 and so there was no more mountain climbing until I got divorced in 1980. The 1970 Mt. Washington climb in August was with the girlfriend before my wife-to-be. For some strange reason those pictures mysteriously disappeared during the 70s. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/566/iconwink6tn.gif

Like the photo album page. Nice set up.

Thanks!
Great news. I see the first picture out there.

You can continue to upload to the same e-mail address if you like. Then you can tell me which album-year to move each file to.

Or, you can upload the individual year's files to their own albums. I created one for each year listed in your post. So, you can upload to
mwo+mak1963@fotki.com
mwo+mak1964@fotki.com
mwo+mak1965@fotki.com
mwo+mak1966@fotki.com
mwo+mak1967@fotki.com
mwo+mak1968@fotki.com
mwo+mak1970@fotki.com

The images will be in their own albums by year. They are posted in this folder
http://public.fotki.com/MWO/old-pictures/mak/

Yes, Fotki has done a good job with the layout and options of the site.