PDA

View Full Version : Conditions page



Steve M
10-08-2007, 11:08 AM
I was just looking at the conditions page and it seems the vertical temp. profile is reporting an inversion.

http://images28.fotki.com/v1032/photos/1/1138397/5151277/conditions_png-vi.jpg

Steve M
10-08-2007, 11:17 AM
Actually, on closer look it's a pocket of warm air inside the colder air between 2300 and 3300 ft. How cool.

Mike D
10-08-2007, 12:11 PM
I think this puts a face on the concept of an inversion. Different air masses with different temps and humidities. There looks to be a lot of mixing going on.

http://images29.fotki.com/v321/fileipSM/6ddb5/1/1002902/5378994/20071008_112308_ravines.jpg

Brad
10-08-2007, 01:33 PM
Besides the inversion, what is really cool to me is that folks are using the image archive off Fotki. That is what I like to see.

Brad
10-15-2007, 12:56 PM
The Conditions page now shows a 6 degree drop - all at once. What would the cause of this be? Instrument iced up?

http://images28.fotki.com/v1033/photos/1/1002902/5378987/20071015_125611_conditions-vi.jpg

bclark
10-15-2007, 03:31 PM
The Conditions page now shows a 6 degree drop - all at once. What would the cause of this be? Instrument iced up?

http://images28.fotki.com/v1033/photos/1/1002902/5378987/20071015_125611_conditions-vi.jpg

The temperature on the current conditions page has actually been off by 6 degrees since Saturday. We have been trying to fix the device that the temperature was coming from, a Yankee Systems Thermo-Hygrometer, with little sucess...we are really stumped and don't know what is wrong.

So, we are now using a different device to get the temperature for the current conditions page, ARVTP, and the home page, and it is now the correct temperature. That's why you see the drop in the temperature on the graph.

Steve M
10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Is this software you run on one of your computers up there and is it showing you everything in real time? Is this page updated every 15 min., or once an hour?

Charlie
10-15-2007, 08:39 PM
Is this software you run on one of your computers up there and is it showing you everything in real time? Is this page updated every 15 min., or once an hour?


so far it looks like it changes every 15 min

Mike D
10-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Is this software you run on one of your computers up there and is it showing you everything in real time? Is this page updated every 15 min., or once an hour?

Every 15 minutes. The program that generates the image was created in something called LabView, which is a graphical programming environment geared towards data acquisition and science.

Brad
10-15-2007, 09:28 PM
And the Conditions images get archived every 15 minutes as they change to http://public.fotki.com/MWO/saved/2007/conditions-archive/

Brad
10-21-2007, 10:10 AM
As noted in the Comments, there was a rapid drop in temperature.

http://images29.fotki.com/v6/photos/1/1002902/5378987/20071020_074016_conditions-vi.jpg

Steve M
10-22-2007, 10:37 AM
Are we in the running for a record high today??

http://images115.fotki.com/v677/photos/1/1002902/5378987/20071022_101917_conditions-vi.jpg

Brad
10-22-2007, 11:28 AM
Are we in the running for a record high today??

Record high for today is 55. The temperature seems to have flattened out right now at 53.

Brad
10-22-2007, 07:31 PM
And it stayed flat through out the day. How does this web page know the record was 55 for today and it "needed" to stay just below that?

http://images30.fotki.com/v472/photos/1/1002902/5378987/20071022_192422_conditions-vi.jpg

Steve M
10-22-2007, 08:33 PM
Isn't that a kick in the pants. I guess the sun just couldn't heat up the summit enough to attain a record.

Steve M
11-08-2007, 09:33 AM
The vertical temperature profile seems to be down this morning. Anyone know whats up with it?

Knapper
11-08-2007, 11:24 PM
The vertical temperature profile seems to be down this morning. Anyone know whats up with it?

The ARVTP relays most of its information to a radio on Wildcat that then relays that to us. The radio on Wildcat is below the proper voltage to operate fully due to the cloud cover that has lingered the past few days. Once it gets some sun (Friday, hopefully) on the solar panels, the webcam and the ARVTP temperatures should be back on.

Also, the base temperature relays its temperatures via the Glen House not Wildcat, that is why it is still working currently.

Brad
11-09-2007, 07:46 AM
The ARVTP relays most of its information to a radio on Wildcat that then relays that to us. The radio on Wildcat is below the proper voltage to operate fully due to the cloud cover that has lingered the past few days. Once it gets some sun (Friday, hopefully) on the solar panels, the webcam and the ARVTP temperatures should be back on.

Also, the base temperature relays its temperatures via the Glen House not Wildcat, that is why it is still working currently.
Ryan, thanks for the update on the status. This is the type of information we love to get. Not just a "we know it is down and our technicians are currently working on it." With your post we can get a better understanding of how things have been put together and what you all have to deal with to keep things running.

Thanks.

Patrad Fischroy
11-09-2007, 08:58 AM
Ryan, thanks for the update on the status. This is the type of information we love to get. Not just a "we know it is down and our technicians are currently working on it." With your post we can get a better understanding of how things have been put together and what you all have to deal with to keep things running.

Thanks.

Ditto on that. Has anyone published a description of the system anywhere. If so, is it available. If not it might be a possible idea for a story in Windswept or something.

Steve M
11-09-2007, 09:10 AM
Ryan, thanks for the update on the status. This is the type of information we love to get. Not just a "we know it is down and our technicians are currently working on it." With your post we can get a better understanding of how things have been put together and what you all have to deal with to keep things running.

Thanks.
Yes, thanks for the details. Another thing that would be cool if you guys have the time to do it would be to include pictures of something in a discussion, like the microwave unit you are linked to get the internet on the summit. Pictures give us a better understanding too.

Brad
11-09-2007, 12:58 PM
Good advertising for the suppliers too.

Charlie
11-09-2007, 08:31 PM
Ryan, thanks for the update on the status. This is the type of information we love to get. Not just a "we know it is down and our technicians are currently working on it." With your post we can get a better understanding of how things have been put together and what you all have to deal with to keep things running.

Thanks.


yes thank you and i like the idea about the story in windswept and then we can work on getting some sponsors for the cams or get the cam people to let you test them out in extreme conditions

Knapper
11-10-2007, 02:27 AM
Status report: The kitty (Wildcat) remained under clouds for the entire day Friday so the system remains dead. Tomorrow hopefully things will be back up as things are clearing a bit currently as of 2 am Saturday. As for a write up in a Windswept, the summit staff knows bits and pieces but the key person behind the system is down in the valley. So we would have to pick his brain or beg politely.

Steve M
11-10-2007, 08:46 AM
Thanks for the update. The ravine cam this morning was cool but shows all the low level clouds still hanging around.

hobbes
11-10-2007, 09:49 AM
A write up on the original Wildcat set up is available at:
http://www.zakongroup.com/technology/highest_wireless_network/

Steve M
11-10-2007, 10:12 AM
That is very interesting. Thanks for the research in finding that article.