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richard583
10-24-2007, 12:32 PM
(.. from wider NPR article (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15584420): ..)


Hurricane-Force Winds

Malibu is one of several towns and cities ravaged by the wildfires. Those fires have been fanned by a set of Santa Ana winds that is among the most ferocious since the government started keeping records in the 1930s.

"It's probably up there in the top five, as far as wind speeds go," says Eric Boldt, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service.

He says one monitoring point, just above the Point Mugu Air Station, measured winds traveling 111 mph. Winds at another point reached 108 mph. That is the speed of winds in a Category 2 hurricane.

"Not every place felt that, obviously, but many areas did see winds of 40 to 60 mph, and that's like a tropical storm or Category 1 hurricane," Boldt said.


related (http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showpost.php?p=10232&postcount=8) ..

donnellyvj
10-24-2007, 04:31 PM
my cousins video from backyard

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5622593172951187249&q=san+diego+wildfires+rancho+santa+fe&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Brad
10-24-2007, 06:12 PM
Wow - I hope the fire stopped coming closer to them.

Steve M
10-24-2007, 06:17 PM
That's not good. You could see the houses completely burned out. I hope your cousin's house didn't burn.

Bill O
10-24-2007, 06:21 PM
For anyone who thinks global warming caused these fires please tell them that global warming has nothing to do with matches and electricity.

Steve M
10-24-2007, 06:25 PM
For anyone who thinks global warming caused these fires please tell them that global warming has nothing to do with matches and electricity.
Or lightning for that matter!

Bill O
10-24-2007, 06:55 PM
Or lightning for that matter!

Well, somebody might argue that global warming caused a thunderstorm which caused the lightning. In this case there was no lightning anywhere near CA.

Steve M
10-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Well, somebody might argue that global warming caused a thunderstorm which caused the lightning. In this case there was no lightning anywhere near CA.
That's true. Aren't the Santa Anna winds cold air winds brought in by high pressure anyway?

Bill O
10-24-2007, 07:53 PM
That's true. Aren't the Santa Anna winds cold air winds brought in by high pressure anyway?

That's true, but by the time they get into the valleys they are hot. The air compresses as it descends from the mountains and becomes hot and very dry.

Steve M
10-24-2007, 09:47 PM
That's true, but by the time they get into the valleys they are hot. The air compresses as it descends from the mountains and becomes hot and very dry.
See, you just gave the argument for global warming...Hot, dry winds.:rolleyes: