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spyboy
11-13-2007, 02:20 AM
Ever consider putting in some nightvision webcams? Instead of the blackness of the night, it'd be fun to see the snow blowing in that eerie green light.

Kirk

Mike D
11-13-2007, 10:59 AM
I am guessing night vision has a hefty price tag. Now infrared, THAT would be sweet!

spyboy
11-13-2007, 02:08 PM
I guess technically, night vision is IR. There's alot of DIY webcam conversions to work with the IR spectrum.

I have a "real" nightvision monoscope I bought years ago at a Costco in Vermont. It's the standard green view, where the phosphors get agitated from light and glow.

The IR spectrum webcams are cheap because it's mainly a filter. I've saw an article a few years ago where they can now do color IR. It uses a color map on the webcam software to convert the spectrum back to the daylight colors. You have to take a daylight picture, then a night IR shot and then map the colors to the greyscale and it can replace it. But, I don't know of any commercial software to do this.

Kirk


I am guessing night vision has a hefty price tag. Now infrared, THAT would be sweet!

Brad
11-13-2007, 04:22 PM
The new North camera certainly does better in low light than the older cameras. When the West camera is completely dark, the new North camera view is visible.

h2oeco
11-13-2007, 07:17 PM
What brand/make are the summit webcams? I know that Axishttp://www.axis.com makes some cameras that are capable of low light - i.e. - 1 lux for color, .2 for B/W. I've worked w/ them before, and the results are pretty good...

h2oeco
11-13-2007, 07:44 PM
Does anyone know what brand the current webcams are? I've worked with Axis cameras, and some of them have very good low light capability - i.e. - 1 lux for color, .2 lux for B/W - http://www.axis.com

seymourcctv
12-05-2007, 08:05 PM
I work in the surveillance camera field and there are many options for Infra red cameras. They go from $100 to over a $1000. The cheaper ones are well Cheap and would not last up there. You can't look through a window with IR it will reflect so the camera will have to be outside in a GOOD/heated housing.

Are they using IP cameras up there or do they run analog to a DVR for recording and internet transmission? I'm guessing they are IP to a router/switch

Check out www.Supercircuits.com They have a excellent outdoor IR camera that can see over 300 feet in the dark.

If I can find out the setup there I can maybe get one donated by me or one of my suppliers and I'll install it during a edutrip I was thinking of taking in Feb 08.

Ken
Seymour, CT

Brad
12-12-2007, 09:36 AM
Does anyone know what brand the current webcams are? I've worked with Axis cameras, and some of them have very good low light capability - i.e. - 1 lux for color, .2 lux for B/W - http://www.axis.com
Mike can give better specifics about the new Toshiba cameras they are installing. They are close to the models we have which are down to 0.18 LUX. They have been awesome at night. Plus, they go to 1280 x 960 resolution.

Getting an IR camera on the deck - or out watching for the summit fox would be wonderful!

Mike D
12-12-2007, 09:53 AM
I somehow missed this thread at first...

We have several cameras from Axis, like the 213 PTZ and the 206M. However, the North and Ravines cams are now Toshiba IK-WB21A models. They are .13 lux cameras. Full disclosure: I am an I.T. person, but I know nothing of surveillance or photography. And yes, they are IP cameras.

To Ken in Seymour, CT, a 300' IR range would be great for surveillance purposes and not long enough for capturing mountain landscapes. Now if you want to help us nab the night-time dumpster users at our valley office... :)

spyboy
12-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Just put a padlock on the dumpster at night.


Now if you want to help us nab the night-time dumpster users at our valley office... :)

Mike D
12-12-2007, 03:17 PM
Just put a padlock on the dumpster at night.

We did that recently. The exhaust system and 8 discarded tires were the final straw.

Brad
12-12-2007, 03:19 PM
It would be interesting to see what we would see with an IR Deck camera.

Brad
12-12-2007, 03:23 PM
We did that recently. The exhaust system and 8 discarded tires were the final straw.
How about a sign that says - "this area is under constant video monitoring".

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/safetycentral_1977_27701090

Charlie
12-12-2007, 07:59 PM
they have them at a local gas station and they have fake camera above your head ,but you can see that the wires don't go any were but into a rain spout .:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mike D
12-12-2007, 09:59 PM
they have them at a local gas station and they have fake camera above your head ,but you can see that the wires don't go any were but into a rain spout .:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Did they have a flannel shirt and straw hat on a stick? Maybe a pitch fork for good measure? No? Hmm, works for the crows.

seymourcctv
12-29-2007, 09:20 PM
Yea, the Best IR camera would do nothing for seeing the long range mountains at night but would work at the observation deck great or yes the illegal dumpster user. But I can do that with a much cheaper camera unless long range is needed there also. Any analog camera can be made IP with a web server add-on about $150-200 for a good one that will work reliably.
Have fun and be safe up there,
Ken