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spyboy
11-14-2007, 05:23 PM
I was just reading up about Microsoft's HD View, a new piece of software that combines the concepts of QuicktimeVR (360x180 immersive panoramics) and Zoomify (flash base flat gigapixel image zooming) into 1 application.

It requires a plugin, for IE or Firefox and works only in Windows right now, so for those of you who don't like plugins, I guess you can skip this thread.

I was up until the wee hours of the morning last night piecing together some of my Mt Washington views (taken from Bretton Woods, Wildcat, Mount Prospect and even up on The Rockpile :)

Today my machine's been ftp'ing almost a gig of images up to my server over the past few hours, for your enjoyment.

So without further ado...

http://www.kmembrydesign.com/hdview/

Once the plugin installs, you can click to zoom in on the images, or use your mouse wheel to zoom in/out.

Kirk

Acrophobe
11-14-2007, 05:34 PM
You've really got some nice photos there. But where's 'Dixville Notch'?

spyboy
11-14-2007, 05:40 PM
On Rte 26, almost to Canada

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=44.86396,-71.299467&spn=0.025764,0.067635&z=15&om=1

Kirk

Brad
11-14-2007, 07:45 PM
I like the deck image from the actual summit.

Steve M
11-14-2007, 08:22 PM
OMG, I think I will jump in the car right now and head for NH. The panos just bring me back there. You are an evil person to post this for a guy in Florida!:mad: :D

spyboy
11-14-2007, 08:42 PM
Hey, I used to live in Florida too (ok, only for 2 years) so if you post picture of Florida, I might miss that :)

I was there from 2003-2005, when we got spanked by 3 hurricanes each season (in Sunrise, Florida).

Katrina was barely a storm as it cruised over S. Florida, then turned into a monster.

Wilma came right through Fort Lauderdale/Sunrise, tearing up alot of houses in the neighborhood but luckily we just had a few shingles pulled off.

The "best" (if that's even possible) part of Wilma, was the 10 days of cool weather with blue skies afterwards. There was no power, no gas, nothing, but everyone survived and I think it's because of the cool temps, nobody freaked out. I finally met alot of neighbors, people had block parties, video projectors were hooked to generators for movie nights shown on sheets hung from the houses. The sad part was once the power went on, everyone went back inside and that was it, no more neighbors to chat with.

Kirk



OMG, I think I will jump in the car right now and head for NH. The panos just bring me back there. You are an evil person to post this for a guy in Florida!:mad: :D

spyboy
11-14-2007, 08:45 PM
btw, I'm working on my next batch of panos right now, so they should be uploaded by the morning.

Kirk

Steve M
11-14-2007, 09:30 PM
You know, that is probably the most cool thing about Florida is the tropical storms and hurricanes! It's what I look forward too all year long, hoping to get hit by something worth respect. The thunderstorms are really cool too. Sometimes these storms produce some awesome electrical storms with lightning flashes every second like a photo shoot at the grammies or something. The heat I can do without though!



Hey, I used to live in Florida too (ok, only for 2 years) so if you post picture of Florida, I might miss that :)

I was there from 2003-2005, when we got spanked by 3 hurricanes each season (in Sunrise, Florida).

Katrina was barely a storm as it cruised over S. Florida, then turned into a monster.

Wilma came right through Fort Lauderdale/Sunrise, tearing up alot of houses in the neighborhood but luckily we just had a few shingles pulled off.

The "best" (if that's even possible) part of Wilma, was the 10 days of cool weather with blue skies afterwards. There was no power, no gas, nothing, but everyone survived and I think it's because of the cool temps, nobody freaked out. I finally met alot of neighbors, people had block parties, video projectors were hooked to generators for movie nights shown on sheets hung from the houses. The sad part was once the power went on, everyone went back inside and that was it, no more neighbors to chat with.

Kirk

Acrophobe
11-14-2007, 09:59 PM
The "best" (if that's even possible) part of Wilma, was the 10 days of cool weather with blue skies afterwards. There was no power, no gas, nothing, but everyone survived and I think it's because of the cool temps, nobody freaked out. I finally met alot of neighbors, people had block parties, video projectors were hooked to generators for movie nights shown on sheets hung from the houses. The sad part was once the power went on, everyone went back inside and that was it, no more neighbors to chat with.


Yeah, wierd, isn't it? I've long thought that humanity was in many ways better before the technological revolution. A stronger sense of community for one thing - I see my neighbors maybe three or four times a year, and that's usually when they're out on their back porch yelling at each other...


And I can't imagine living in Florida. Not to disparage your state, of course, but I hate heat. Not to mention, love winter and mountains. :) A few years ago, I spent a week in southern Texas and all I really remember is the heat so oppresive I had to get up at 5 AM to go running - and even then I was drenched in sweat, the cacti on the football field, and the water moccasin in the swimming hole. I'm quite happy with NH. ;)

spyboy
11-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Well, I grew up a Jersey boy, and moved to Vermont as soon as I graduated from Rutgers. Lived in Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine, but did 2 years in Austin, Texas during the dot com heyday. Also spent 2 years in Florida.

So, I've done my southern living, in the heat. I liked Texas, it was different. East Texas piney woods reminded me of New England (except it was 100 degrees).

Now I'm back up in New Hampshire, where I belong. Even as I kid in NJ I was happy in the fall/winter in my big red/black plaid lumberjack shirts and a pair of Timberlands.

K

Brad
11-15-2007, 06:09 AM
Now I'm back up in New Hampshire, where I belong. Even as I kid in NJ I was happy in the fall/winter in my big red/black plaid lumberjack shirts and a pair of Timberlands.

K
Ha, my Timberlands have been to Tuckermans many times. They like the outdoors.

spyboy
11-15-2007, 05:51 PM
Ok, I just finished a massive amount of panoramics, 70 to be exact!

Shots from all over the state. I need to go back and sort them out by date, but for now they're at least sorted by area.

Enjoy.

http://www.kmembrydesign.com/hdview/brettonwoods.aspx

Kirk

Charlie
11-15-2007, 08:55 PM
it said i need to down load Beta 2 .is this safe to down load ?

Brad
11-15-2007, 09:20 PM
I downloaded it and I am still alive and k.............

Charlie
11-15-2007, 09:29 PM
thanks some times you never know

Acrophobe
11-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Haha, it seems there's no road in NH that's not seen the tyres of your car, Spyboy. :) It was funny seeing that bridge - I ride my bike there all the time. Taken from Hilton Park, wasn't it?


Edit: I just installed that what-ever-it-was out of curiousity. That was just amazing - I'd love to have what the camera cost; could probably pay my tuition, buy a house in Seattle in the shadow of Mount Rainier, and retire on the interest. ;) You could just keep zooming in and in and in....

Pretty neat, is what I mean to say...


Another Edit: Those backhoes look so incredibly out of place against that stunning backdrop. Obviously, they needed them to build that building up there, but you don't really think about that. How did they get them up there? Surely tractor trailors can't get up the auto road?

spyboy
11-15-2007, 11:03 PM
Yeah I've done alot of driving in the past 2 years with my cameras :)

My camera wasn't very expensive, all of those shots are made up of at least 3 photos, but some as many as 25 or so, stitched together to get those wide vista shots.

Yes, that was Hilton Park, I couldn't remember the name of it, thank you for the reminder .

btw: if you like those panoramics, take a look at these flash ones I did, full 360 degrees by 180 degrees. http://www.kmembrydesign.com/flash.html

Kirk


Haha, it seems there's no road in NH that's not seen the tyres of your car, Spyboy. :) It was funny seeing that bridge - I ride my bike there all the time. Taken from Hilton Park, wasn't it?


Edit: I just installed that what-ever-it-was out of curiousity. That was just amazing - I'd love to have what the camera cost; could probably pay my tuition, buy a house in Seattle in the shadow of Mount Rainier, and retire on the interest. ;) You could just keep zooming in and in and in....

Pretty neat, is what I mean to say...


Another Edit: Those backhoes look so incredibly out of place against that stunning backdrop. Obviously, they needed them to build that building up there, but you don't really think about that. How did they get them up there? Surely tractor trailors can't get up the auto road?

Acrophobe
11-15-2007, 11:17 PM
Those are really neat. How many pictures does it take? And how can you stich them together so seamlessly?

spyboy
11-16-2007, 08:24 AM
for the 360x180 I shoot 8 shots (6 around, 1 up, 1 down), for the panos that I encoded to work with HD View, it's as many shots as I want.

There's a few software packages that will stitch panoramics together (Realviz Stitcher, AutoPano Pro, PT Gui, Hughin, etc). Most can get you a fast stitch but then you have to tweak the control points to ensure proper stitching. Some of the 70 panos I uploaded have stitching issues (seams and parts that are out of whack, but with the amount I was processing, I didn't feel like going into detail on each one. I'll probably revisit a few of the ones I really like and adjust them).

Kirk


Those are really neat. How many pictures does it take? And how can you stich them together so seamlessly?

Brad
11-16-2007, 03:38 PM
I use "The Panaroma Factory" to do all my stitching. It is from Smokey City Design.

Breeze
11-16-2007, 04:49 PM
For Acrophobe who wrote

"Another Edit: Those backhoes look so incredibly out of place against that stunning backdrop. Obviously, they needed them to build that building up there, but you don't really think about that. How did they get them up there? Surely tractor trailors can't get up the auto road?"

Yes, indeedy, they can and do get up there! Trick is that they do it either before or after the road closes, which during operating season for the Auto Road, is pretty much in early EARLY morning or AFTER DARK. There can be no other traffic present. Heavy equipment is trucked up, vast amounts of fuel ( the big tankers, not your home delivery truck) to fill the "tank farm", and a BIG Honey Wagon goes up to clear the holding tanks.


This fall the 6 mile was paved, starting the day after the road closed for the season, which meant trucking the paver, the roller and all the asphalt up. There were 5 dump trucks trucking asphalt, needing 4 ( sometimes 5) flaggers to get them up and down the mountain ALL day long, holding trucks in a couple of places where they could park out of the way to make room for each other. I think there were about 20 ( + or- a couple) loads of asphalt laid on Monday ( 10/22) and that many more on Tuesday (10/23).

For all the folks who work on top, having the 6 mile paved will be pretty spiffy in the spring as it will be one less mile of mud, ruts, and washouts to negotiate.

I know there are some folks who think the Auto Road and the Cog are abominations, AND should go away, but MWOBS would never have happened without transport to the summit, and it certainly wouldn't survive without both.

Breeze

spyboy
11-17-2007, 06:25 AM
I converted the panos to the Flash Zoomify player, listed in this thread...

http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2203

Kirk

Bill O
11-17-2007, 09:54 PM
As always, very impressive work.

I was looking at some of the interior panos. How do you get the light so even? You managed to capture a huge range of light from interior shadows to the bright outdoors. I would have guessed the outdoors would have been blown out form the bright light.

I ask because someday I am going to sell my condo and I have massive 5x10' windows. I'd love to shoot panos like that, but I want the light to be even.

spyboy
11-17-2007, 10:53 PM
I sometimes shoot bracketed (low/med/high contrast) which is what HDR shots use. Then I can pull the windows from one shot back into another so they're not blown out.


As always, very impressive work.

I was looking at some of the interior panos. How do you get the light so even? You managed to capture a huge range of light from interior shadows to the bright outdoors. I would have guessed the outdoors would have been blown out form the bright light.

I ask because someday I am going to sell my condo and I have massive 5x10' windows. I'd love to shoot panos like that, but I want the light to be even.

Steve M
11-17-2007, 11:33 PM
I sometimes shoot bracketed (low/med/high contrast) which is what HDR shots use. Then I can pull the windows from one shot back into another so they're not blown out.
Very nice! Thanks for sharing your work with us.:)