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Brad
11-22-2007, 09:40 AM
Things have been changing with the Ravines camera over the past couple of days. We have had some images that could almost be called test patterns. The one below might have an interesting story about it. The current Ravines image is not changing and does not have the date & time on it.

So, what is happening? Are we running on the new camera?

http://images31.fotki.com/v1039/photos/1/1002902/5534327/20071121_104621_ravines-vi.jpg

hobbes
11-22-2007, 11:15 AM
See http://www.mountwashington.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2225#3

spyboy
11-22-2007, 11:34 AM
I think that's the new feed from Australia :)

Kirk

Mike D
11-22-2007, 01:21 PM
Yes, the camera is new; a Toshiba IK-WB21A. The image quality is fantastic (fantastic fog) but the camera is meant to be ceiling mounted. It has a setting to rotate the image 180, which works only for the live stream, not the static image. So I have to flip it in software later. The picture above was unprocessed, like good holiday stuffing.

Brad
11-22-2007, 01:58 PM
Interesting - I did not know the still image would not rotate when you change the mount setting. I just flipped my lake camera to be ceiling mount and the live image is upside down. The still image was fine. I learned something.

I guess it is easy to rotate a still image later in the process.

Mike D
11-23-2007, 01:33 PM
I care about you guys (and ladies) so much that I'm using my holiday to program the presets on the Ravines Cam.

http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/ravines/

Beats battling other shoppers at Settlers' Green.

Brad
11-23-2007, 07:23 PM
I care about you guys (and ladies) so much that I'm using my holiday to program the presets on the Ravines Cam.

http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/ravines/

Beats battling other shoppers at Settlers' Green.
And we all do appreciate your efforts! Even with the ice glaze burning off the camera shows a lot of potential.

http://images31.fotki.com/v1055/photos/1/1002902/5534327/20071123_160637_ravines-vi.jpg

Brad
11-24-2007, 08:25 PM
This was nice today.

http://images32.fotki.com/v1062/photos/1/1002902/5534327/20071124_102138_ravines-vi.jpg

EricJ
11-28-2007, 09:57 AM
Mike, Am I being picky? Could you shift the Ravines camera slightly so that it includes Tuckermans entirely. Thanks

Acrophobe
11-28-2007, 10:09 AM
That kinda brings up another question - how do you protect the cameras? From theft or animals or falling limbs or whatnot? Do you just walk out in the woods until you find a good spot, then hang it in a tree somewhere?

spyboy
11-28-2007, 10:38 AM
I thought it was mounted up at the old lift structure at the top of Wildcat

Patrad Fischroy
11-28-2007, 10:57 AM
It is also in an enclosure, for more details on the Ravines camera, go to http://www.zakongroup.com/technology/highest_wireless_network/

It is a pretty good read.

Mike D
11-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Mike, Am I being picky? Could you shift the Ravines camera slightly so that it includes Tuckermans entirely. Thanks

I leveled and centered the view. Just a quick hike up from North Conway.

A close up view of Tuckerman is available as part of our exclusive member offering. Joining at the $45 level would help our non-profit mission and provide you with this and other views and movies.

Mike D
11-28-2007, 03:46 PM
It is also in an enclosure, for more details on the Ravines camera, go to http://www.zakongroup.com/technology/highest_wireless_network/

It is a pretty good read.

Many additions and improvements have been made since Zakon Group helped install this webcam, such as the installation of the new camera.

Mike D
11-28-2007, 03:52 PM
I thought it was mounted up at the old lift structure at the top of Wildcat

Yes, it is indeed.

spyboy
11-28-2007, 06:32 PM
Ah, that explains this shot...

http://www.spyboy.com/mw/ravine.jpg



I leveled and centered the view. Just a quick hike up from North Conway.

Mike D
11-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Ah, that explains this shot...

http://www.spyboy.com/mw/ravine.jpg

It's the new Ravines post card: "Wish you were here! Sincerely, Obs."

Steve M
11-29-2007, 08:42 PM
It's the new Ravines post card: "Wish you were here! Sincerely, Obs."
I thought it was, "oops, I slipped on the ice while adjusting the camera":)

spyboy
11-30-2007, 12:24 AM
If the camera was tipped, why would the image be rotated out of frame? It would still be a rectangular image, just that the horizon would be listing to one side.

Unless you run your images through an app to "level" based on the sillouette of the mountain range...

spyboy
11-30-2007, 12:41 AM
You mean like this?

http://www.spyboy.com/mw/ravine2.jpg

It's the new Ravines post card: "Wish you were here! Sincerely, Obs."

Steve M
11-30-2007, 06:42 AM
I must say, that is really cool. Mike, when you have those printed for sale I will buy one...or two.:)

By the way, isn't that a Floyd tune???

EricJ
11-30-2007, 09:37 AM
[QUOTE=Mike D]I leveled and centered the view. Just a quick hike up from North Conway.

A quick hike from North Conway?
Could'nt you have just driven to Wildcat? LOL
Thanks for adjusting the view.

Mike D
11-30-2007, 12:22 PM
[QUOTE=Mike D]I leveled and centered the view. Just a quick hike up from North Conway.

A quick hike from North Conway?
Could'nt you have just driven to Wildcat? LOL
Thanks for adjusting the view.

Yes, I was just joking. We took the lift up.

Mike D
11-30-2007, 12:25 PM
You mean like this?

http://www.spyboy.com/mw/ravine2.jpg

Exactly, I just wasn't going to spend the time to Photoshop it.

These cameras are approaching the quality one would need for printed merchandise; magnets, buttons, post cards, shirts, thimbles, etc. I'm thinking of a holographic t-shirt with a timelapse sunset.

spyboy
11-30-2007, 03:18 PM
I want a lenticular post card of an Observer blowing across the deck :)

Patrad Fischroy
12-03-2007, 08:16 AM
Or a group of observatory staff doing some dance steps!!

Mike D
12-04-2007, 11:05 AM
Due to a power shortage, the Ravines cam and Auto Road Vertical Temperature Profile are offline. This communication relies on solar panels and 12 volt batteries on the summit of Wildcat. This is the time of year when snow and clouds obscure what little sun their is.

I still remain confident that our recent changes to Wildcat will conserve enough juice to keep it online longer. We just need several days of sun to give us a nice charge.

EricJ
12-04-2007, 09:24 PM
Would'nt a small wind turbine be a good compliment to back up the solar panels? I don't recall ever seeing rime ice up on Wildcat.

Mike D
12-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Would'nt a small wind turbine be a good compliment to back up the solar panels? I don't recall ever seeing rime ice up on Wildcat.

Perhaps it would. I haven't worked with the small wind generators such as those used on Lakes of the Clouds Hut. It is totally untrodden territory for us at the Obs, although I'm sure the AMC folks would gives us some advice if asked. The deal-breaker might be acquiring permission from the Forest Service. Wildcat is part of public land, so we would need permission to add devices to your land.

Brad
12-05-2007, 04:46 AM
You have my okay. I am sure the others will agree.

hobbes
12-05-2007, 06:58 AM
When the original Wildcat cam was engineered, the profile above roofline could not be changed; I'm guessing this policy may still be in place. The bigger issue with a wind solution however may be snow/ice, unless a heated mechanism can be put in place, but then you're probably using much of the energy produced to heat the turbine.

Mike D
12-05-2007, 09:19 AM
We could attach a turbine to the circular motion of the chairs as they rotate around the lift shack. That would generate some power.

hobbes
12-05-2007, 01:22 PM
We could attach a turbine to the circular motion of the chairs as they rotate around the lift shack. That would generate some power. Well, if you're doing that, you may as well plug directly into the generator ;)

Mike D
12-05-2007, 01:38 PM
Well, if you're doing that, you may as well plug directly into the generator ;)

Quite true, although I'm sure that the Forest Service would balk at laying conduit to run power between the lift and the summit building.

hobbes
12-05-2007, 04:42 PM
But, but ... is the generator no longer in the same building as the cam? It used to be downstairs (back left if you are facing the front of the building).

Charlie
12-05-2007, 06:22 PM
i say put some squirrels on some treadmills and make them work for food :D

JimS
12-06-2007, 08:31 AM
Food ain't free either you know...



i say put some squirrels on some treadmills and make them work for food :D

Patrad Fischroy
12-06-2007, 08:52 AM
Power is "transmitted" up to the top, in the form of motion on the cable. Just rig a little generator up a roller or pulley at the top and you have electricity. Of course the lift owner might have some issues with that.;)

EricJ
12-06-2007, 10:29 AM
i say put some squirrels on some treadmills and make them work for food :D

You have the right Idea. Instead of squirrells use people. Invite the skiers to crank a hand powered generator. It will give them something to do while they wait for there friends and be for a good cause. The kids would love it and the parents could peruse the MWOBS literature left stratigically next to the "Crank for www.mountwashington.org" sign.


P.S. Mike, The Ravines camera is creaping skyward. Looks like you'll have to take another hike up from Conway.


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Mike D
12-06-2007, 10:43 AM
But, but ... is the generator no longer in the same building as the cam? It used to be downstairs (back left if you are facing the front of the building).

I believe the generator you speak of is no longer used.


Invite the skiers to crank a hand powered generator.

I thought of using an exercise bike, but that would be hard or impossible for skiers and snowboarders. This is actually a really neat idea.


The Ravines camera is creaping skyward.

Got it under control.

EricJ
12-06-2007, 12:17 PM
I just modified Charlies idea, only his would have riled the animal rights groups. On the sign could also read “We really need your help on cloudy days” with an explanation why. Info on what the camera is used for could spark interest in future enthusiasts. It would be a high altitude science class.

Thanks again for the webcam adjustment. Remarkable, the power of the internet.

Steve M
12-08-2007, 08:49 AM
The views of the Ravine cams additional webcam views of Tucks, Gulf of slides, and Huntingtons are a little low. Can they be adjusted higher with out too much trouble?

Brad
01-21-2008, 09:23 AM
The Ravines camera seems to have gone wandering. It is looking up now. Who is volunteering to run up there and ix it?

Mike D
01-23-2008, 11:46 AM
Not unlike me, the Ravine camera appears to get sluggish in the cold weather. Very occasionally it seems to lose its orientation, so when we say (for example) "Look at Tuckerman Ravine" it aims too high. Restarting the camera fixes the problem. Fortunately it is rare for this to happen and it can be fixed remotely.


The Ravines camera seems to have gone wandering. It is looking up now. Who is volunteering to run up there and ix it?

Steve M
01-23-2008, 09:26 PM
The Ravines camera seems to have gone wandering. It is looking up now. Who is volunteering to run up there and ix it?
And I thought Mike was going to want me to go up and fix it. He let me off the hook.:)

Mike D
01-23-2008, 11:45 PM
You just had a couple inches of fluffy snow... baby steps my friend.


And I thought Mike was going to want me to go up and fix it. He let me off the hook.:)

Steve M
01-24-2008, 09:01 AM
You just had a couple inches of fluffy snow... baby steps my friend.
Your right, I wouldn't know what to do with myself up there. You probably wouldn't be able to get my attention for the first hour or two.:D

hobbes
01-30-2008, 06:53 PM
A great view yesterday morning:

http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/cam/ravines/ravines-200801290700.jpg

Steve M
01-31-2008, 07:53 AM
Mt Washington looks good in pink.

M_Six
01-31-2008, 11:20 PM
It's amazing how awesome some of the pics from those cams look. Who could have predicted such a cool sky? :cool:

Patrad Fischroy
02-12-2008, 09:18 AM
It seems as though the timing on the sunrise movie for the Ravines is a little off. It seems to start in pretty full daylight.

Patrad Fischroy
02-21-2008, 08:40 AM
Is the camera drifting a little up? The view seems to be missing the ravines.

Patrad Fischroy
02-21-2008, 04:33 PM
Much better now, thanks

KathyC
02-21-2008, 05:49 PM
It looks like a beautiful sunset tonight, too bad the west view camera is blocked with ice, that's my favorite view...
:(

Brad
02-21-2008, 08:42 PM
What a great view today! Several cameras were wonderful.

http://images34.fotki.com/v1146/photos/1/1002902/5846186/20080221_145449_ravines-vi.jpg