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CHRIS
07-07-2008, 12:39 PM
After the hike up M/W this Sat. my left knee was killing me on the way down. I went to Dicks sporting Goods and they have so many different kinds of braces that I don't know wich one to buy. My pain goes thru the middle from left to right on my left knee. So I was wondering if anybody else has had the same issues and what kind of wrap or brace do they use. I hate to buy the wrong one. It only hurts on the way down. Thanks in advance for any help anybody can give me.

Bill O
07-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Go see a doctor. You could have any one of 137 different things wrong with your knee and seeking medical advice from a group of Mount Washington lovers is probably not a good idea. Tips for preventing blisters yes, tips for knee injuries no.

On top of that I really hate the idea of braces, splints, pills, patches, balms or other remedies that only alleviate the problem rather than fixing it. Which is why I'm not a doctor.

FisherCat
07-07-2008, 02:09 PM
Go see a doctor. You could have any one of 137 different things wrong with your knee and seeking medical advice from a group of Mount Washington lovers is probably not a good idea. Tips for preventing blisters yes, tips for knee injuries no.

On top of that I really hate the idea of braces, splints, pills, patches, balms or other remedies that only alleviate the problem rather than fixing it. Which is why I'm not a doctor.

I must totally agree.OTC remedies should sometimes stay exactly where they are, On The Counter. Wait for direction from a doctor's diagnosis
instead of self-remedy in this case. If you want to continue hiking, you need your knees. I'm only saying this because I tried for years to get by with a torn ACL, and it can be done, but what I was doing was making it worse, I needed a specialist.

CHRIS
07-07-2008, 02:46 PM
Thanks for the advice. I am going to wait till after STP because I don't want to be laid up. My wife keeps telling me go see my doctor but I am stubborn. It only bothers me when I am hiking down putting more work on it I guess. I just got into hiking in fact I just did my second hike ever this time up Mount Washington . I am serously hooked on hiking. After STP I will probably go see the doc. I guess I was just trying to look for a bandaid. Thanks again..

donnellyvj
07-07-2008, 02:54 PM
This is not medical advise. I hike with adjustable poles and this helps me with the impact on the way down.

mary
07-07-2008, 03:23 PM
the knee is a complicated joint consisting of several structures....including bones....tendons and ligaments....there are two c-shaped pieces of cartilage known as the menisci that curve around the inside and outside of the knee to stabilize and cushion the joint....conservative treatment such as rest....ice and over the counter medication is probably a given but you really should see your doctor and rule out any serious problem and you should probably do it before your next hike....think about how important your knees are....good luck....

BlueDog
07-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Chris, out of curiosity... do you have flat feet/fallen arches? I was getting similar knee pains for a while, especially after long runs or hikes. I went to a physical therapist, worked on some exercises... but the biggest difference was getting good inserts for my running shoes and hiking boots. Its made a remarkable improvement in my knee pain. EMS or REI carries SuperFeet inserts and I highly recommend them.

Bill O
07-07-2008, 07:06 PM
I agree about the poles. If you are going to continue to hike I'd suggest trying adjustable poles. On the way down it can take a significant amount of stress off your knees.

Wait to see what a doctor says about the various wraps. Most of them are just expensive socks.

Great Guinness Ghost
07-07-2008, 08:50 PM
I agree with everyone else. A doctors advice is best. However, if you are going to wait 'til after STP and your knee only hurts on the way down, then might I suggest a ride down the Auto Road in one of their stages. They sell tickets at the stage office at the summit on a first come first serve basis. I know several hikers who did this last year and it certainly helped my knees...ah, I mean their knees feel better! Best of luck.

CHRIS
07-08-2008, 06:59 AM
I do use poles on the way down. My knees never bothered me at all even when I jog only happens when I am coming down off a hike. I am going to get into see my doc. As for flat feet or fallen arches I don't believe I have that because I would think it would have bothered me before but I am no doc. I will see what she says.I will be going to REI this weekend to get some hiking boots for my wife and daughter I might try a pair of Superfeet inserts. Thanks everybody for all your advice.

JerseyHiker
07-10-2008, 12:27 AM
As an ER tech, I would advise you to go to a orthopedist ASAP! Every time I'm at work I see men who come in after suffering for days and things are usually a lot worse then when it started. I also think the doctor would be able to fit you for a brace properly!! Often people buy the wrong size brace or wrong type and it cuts off circulation :( good luck!

CHRIS
08-01-2008, 10:35 PM
Well I have gone and done it. I went against everything my loving wife told me and everyone that responded to this post and I waited to do STP before making an apointment to go to my doctor. I started up to the summit on the Ammo trail @ 5:00 am Sat. morning and felt great 3/4 the way up to the summit from the Lake of Clouds Hut going at a nice slow and steady pace but all of a sudden my knee started to bother me. Well I got to the summit at 9:45 am and sat down for a snack and when I stood up wow my leg almost gave out. So I sat and thought until 10:30 should I take the cog down or go for it down to the Jewell trail. I really felt I would be cheating everybody who sponsored me if I did that so I told myself to just take it easy and go slow. BAD idea right around tree line my knee said see ya I'm not even going to bend anymore so I started to favor that knee (left) and put more weight on my right so about another 1/2 mile down my right knee started to hurt. Well to make this as short as possible it took me 5 hours to get down the Jewell that only took me 3 hours last time. I just got back home because we were in N.H. for the week. It still hurts a little and I am calling my doc on Monday to get me in. I have never felt so much pain in my life. I am a stubborn jacka$$ and I should have listened but I figured I would just take it easy BAD BAD mistake. I only hope that the docs. can do something so that I can be all set for the next STP. I do not want to miss any. I almost did not go to the dinner but I really wanted to go with my wife and 8 year old daughter. Now they both want to do the hike with me next year.I really want to get some more hikes in this year but if the doc. says no then I will do what he says so that next year I will be all set.
Sorry so long but just trying to vent my aggrevation even thou I brought it on myself.

Brad
08-01-2008, 10:39 PM
Chris, good luck with this and with some work you will back and hiking again.

Charlie
08-01-2008, 10:54 PM
wow Chris i thought my legs were in bad shape when i got to the car
i know what your talking about i had my knee lock up and had to have a lot of cartilage taking out 18yrs ago and now it is fine
so keep us posted on what they say

good luck

bikehikeskifish
08-02-2008, 07:18 AM
Might want to read this, while you're resting:

http://www.viewsfromthetop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18392

Tim

mary
08-02-2008, 09:12 AM
awwwww....sorry it worked out this way for you chris....i know all about putting things off thinking....or in the hopes that things will get better....good luck and im sure youll be all set to rock and roll after treatment....

mtruman
08-02-2008, 02:29 PM
Best of luck Chris. I've got many of the same knee problems (including a torn ACL for the last 5 years) and I've been putting off getting them fixed as well. I was fortunate to be OK with STP and several more days of hiking last week but my knees are acting up since I've been home. It's so hard to commit to the time off needed for repair and recovery but I'm sure it is the best route in the end. I try to take all of the precautions including treking poles, knee braces (which I find held a lot in my case by helping to keep things aligned) and Sole heat moldable insoles to cure my over pronation. I'm afraid that these are just a temporary fix however. Look forward to hearing how you make out with the doc. Hopefully a simple fix and fast recovery.

Steve M
08-02-2008, 06:01 PM
Chris, I would have done the same thing I imagine. The thought of canceling a hike because of not knowing if I could do it would be too much to bear. I am glad you made it out o.k. and hopefully you will get it fixed so you can have many more enjoyable hikes.

CHRIS
08-02-2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks for all your replies everybody and I can't wait to get to the docs. to get it taken care of. The sooner the better and I only hope it won't take to long to fix as I really wanted to get some hiking in this fall but what ever needs to be done. I am not going to rush anything as to make sure everything will be all set for next year. I will let you know what happens as soon as I can get in.

CHRIS
08-02-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks Tim for that link that was incredible but it is a little bit scary knowing everything you went thru. It is really making me nervous going to the docs. I just started hiking in fact I have only hiked the Welch-Dickey loop once and Washington twice but I cannot think of anything else I have enjoyed as much as hiking.Thanks again and I will post as soon as I can get in to docs.

Caffeine Addict
08-02-2008, 08:05 PM
hey chris i hope all works out for you so you can get back out on the trails

joe

CHRIS
08-07-2008, 07:23 AM
I have an appointment for my knee on Tuesday but after reading more trip reports I am having hiking withdrawels. I am hooked and can't wait to get back out there. Of couse my wife says " I ain't going nowhere till I see the doc". She is right of course. I just hope I do not need surgery because that would lay me up for a while but at least it will be all set (hopefully) for STP09.

CHRIS
08-12-2008, 06:52 PM
I went to the docs. today and he is sending me for an Mri. From the xrays everything looks good but when he started poking and squezzing around I almost left the bed I was laying on. He believes it might be torn cartilage but he wont be able to tell me until he sees the Mri. He gave me another appointment Sept. 16th to go over the mri but says I can still hike as long as it is all flat. He's a funny guy I have never seen a mountain flat. This really sucks because I am having all kinds of withdrawals reading everybody elses trail reports. This is going to be a long month.

Charlie
08-12-2008, 07:27 PM
this may help

i was on a hike today that was so flat i had to stop and take the arch supports out of my shoes so i did not think i was hiking up hill :eek:

bikehikeskifish
08-14-2008, 07:00 AM
First, I feel your pain. I really do.

Second, I had both an MRI and a bone scan and neither one showed anything conclusive. The MRI showed a "possible pocket of fluid consistent with a torn meniscus." Call my broker and tell him to buy, buy, buy! based on that news. Hopefully yours is more conclusive.

The hardest part, by far, was taking it very easy for a while. With no direct blood supply, cartilage is very slow to heal.

Tim

CHRIS
09-16-2008, 07:56 PM
Update on my MRI. I went to see the doc today and he said he did not see any tears or anything and said it was my IT band, abreviated because the name is to long to even pronounce it. He said what happened is it is suppose to be tight like a guitar string but after to many miles of use it becomes lose and instead of sliding from the front to back of the leg it starts to get kinda lose and rubs losely on the way back and fourth and creates alot of pain ( he's not kidding). He gave me a brace and he is having me go for physical therapy for three weeks twice a week. He said I can go hiking again and that made my day because I thought for sure he was going to say surgery. He told me to just take it easy for a while and to wear the brace for a while when I am hiking. Now I have to figure out where to go first because I am having major withdrawals to get some mud on my feet. Come to find out he has been hiking since 1968 all over the place VT,Canada,Utah,Alaska etc.. Boy was I envious. I am thinking of hitting Arethusa Falls and Frankenstein Cliffs as first hike back out. Now I just can't wait to get out there. Thanks evrybody for wishing me luck I guess it paid off..

Brad
09-16-2008, 08:04 PM
Chris, that is great news. Keep us posted on your "first" hike.

TrishandAlex
09-16-2008, 09:12 PM
Chris, that's wonderful. Take it easy though, okay? Not too much too soon. But yes, get out there and get some mud on those boots!

Steve M
09-18-2008, 08:43 AM
Update on my MRI. I went to see the doc today and he said he did not see any tears or anything and said it was my IT band, abreviated because the name is to long to even pronounce it. He said what happened is it is suppose to be tight like a guitar string but after to many miles of use it becomes lose and instead of sliding from the front to back of the leg it starts to get kinda lose and rubs losely on the way back and fourth and creates alot of pain ( he's not kidding). He gave me a brace and he is having me go for physical therapy for three weeks twice a week. He said I can go hiking again and that made my day because I thought for sure he was going to say surgery. He told me to just take it easy for a while and to wear the brace for a while when I am hiking. Now I have to figure out where to go first because I am having major withdrawals to get some mud on my feet. Come to find out he has been hiking since 1968 all over the place VT,Canada,Utah,Alaska etc.. Boy was I envious. I am thinking of hitting Arethusa Falls and Frankenstein Cliffs as first hike back out. Now I just can't wait to get out there. Thanks evrybody for wishing me luck I guess it paid off..

Glad to hear your doing better. My dad is having knee surgery on Friday. His knee keeps locking up on him and then swells up. He has had to stop training his border collie on the weekends because of it.

Charlie
09-18-2008, 07:12 PM
Chris that is good news so go take a hike will ya :D