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Charlie
08-12-2008, 07:57 PM
i was in northern Vermont and on the border of New Hampshire and we were driving around looking at the mountains and she said it looks so nice up here :D

she did say some day ,her farther lives near us and he is old so she does not want to move yet :(

then we started looking at house prices and they are not to cheep in vermont so we will keep looking :cool:

Brad
08-12-2008, 08:01 PM
Charlie, it takes time and patience. It might all work out.

KD Talbot
08-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Are you talking about your wife, or Rosie? :)

KDT

Charlie
08-12-2008, 08:36 PM
Are you talking about your wife, or Rosie? :)

KDT

Rosie wants to move so she can have a moose as a play mate :D

Steve M
08-12-2008, 09:15 PM
Rosie wants to move so she can have a moose as a play mate :D

Maybe we could split the cost of 10 acres somewhere and you could live on 5 and we could live on 5.

Charlie
08-13-2008, 07:35 PM
Maybe we could split the cost of 10 acres somewhere and you could live on 5 and we could live on 5.

heck rosie wants 5 acres for her self to play with her friends :D


i would love to do some thing i dont need a lake or a pond but a stream would be nice and a little view cant afford a big view :eek:

KD Talbot
08-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Get a map, pick a town and search away.

http://www.nneren.com/

KDT

Charlie
08-13-2008, 08:50 PM
thanks i love that site

found 4 homes already :D

wife likes 1 of them :eek:

Bill O
08-13-2008, 09:52 PM
then we started looking at house prices and they are not to cheep in vermont so we will keep looking :cool:

Consider VT prices highly negotiable. It takes a long time to sell real estate in rural areas so many people just list their house on the chance that somebody will bite, often at inflated prices. If somebody really needs to sell the prices will reflect their situation.

Steve M
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Get a map, pick a town and search away.

http://www.nneren.com/

KDT

Great site. I was just going through looking at houses in Berlin, NH. Prices aren't so bad in the city. Anyone from Berlin on the forums that can shine some light on the city?

Brad
08-14-2008, 05:26 AM
Interesting site. Our town in Maine is not included in the search. Nor is the town next to us.

Knapper
08-14-2008, 05:43 AM
Great site. I was just going through looking at houses in Berlin, NH. Prices aren't so bad in the city. Anyone from Berlin on the forums that can shine some light on the city?

I have been living in Berlin for three years. The prices are what attracted me there as well. Houses in NH and the northeast are cheap in general coming from CA where the median home in the country was 250K and in the city 500K. As for when I was shopping for a house, I toured a lot of houses. I toured a lot of lemons and fixer uppers but there were a few great ones. I looked at 7-8 bedrooms for 79K that I was interested in but after thinking about it, settled on a smaller one bedroom for 57K. I really like the area. It is an hour or less from most White Mountain locations. It has a super walmart and Shaws as well as fast food and other major chains and any chains that aren't in the cities of Gorham/Berlin are within an hours drive. And, at least from where I am at, nice views. Taxes are reasonable as well. I looked at ME and VT as well and found that NH had the best thing going for me but taxes are very dependant on where you live in the state. When I moved, I had everything shipped to Portland and apparently, I was the only van that was moving in in over 8 months all other trucks were rented to leave the state. Also, being north, there aren't as many tourist like Conway has.

Downsides (to me at least) are no movie theaters. It is usually one of the coldest places in NH due to being north of the mountains and at a higher altitude. Things are cheap due to it being a former mill town but because it is an older town, there are a lot of old houses. So, even if you score a nice house, your neighborhood might not reflect the same appeal. Like I said, there are a lot of lemons too. There is a state and federal prison which may scare some away but the police log in the paper reflects the same types and amount of crime, if not less, as Conways I have noticed. It gets a lot of snow which may be a deterant or a draw. The nearest airports are 2.5 hours to 3 away so if you fly a lot, this may be bad.

Overall though, I like living there and wouldn't have it any other way. If it had a theater, I wouldn't leave it on my off weeks apart from hiking. I would say visit it before commiting to it like any other big purchase. But it is definitely worth looking into.

Brad
08-14-2008, 06:25 AM
Do you have a side job at the Chamber of Commerce?

We have a friend who lives in Randolph and he is in a great area. Nice small homes - good views - and right on the trails to get up the northern Presidentials. The house was actually designed to look like an AMC hut and is really cool.

CHRIS
08-14-2008, 08:47 AM
We almost moved north about 4 years ago and it is still a dream of mine but every house we looked at was so far from what either the realtor or the person selling it said it was like. Even the pictures were so far off. Well my wife got so disgusted with it all she wanted to stay where we are now for a little while. However I have not stopped bugging her to move up there and when we went back north we stayed in the Twin Mountains area for STP and she did a little hiking with my 8 yr old she is starting to like the idea again as a matter a fact we just put our rv and truck on the market so that if it sells we are going to either buy a small place or a piece of land to build on so we can go north as much as possible. It has been a dream of mine to move north since I went there as a kid. I don't know what it is but I feel so alive when I am up there especially in the woods. We really like the outskirts of North Conway area. Well hopefully soon we will be buying.

hobbes
08-14-2008, 09:14 AM
When my wife & I moved to the Valley several years ago, we decided to rent a house for a year so that we could familiarize ourselves with the local "neighborhoods" and give us an opportunity to better explore the housing market. This approach may not work for everyone, but we lucked out and found a wonderful place to live in a great part of the Valley we didn't even know about (even though I had been visiting the Valley a few times a year for 15 years). Being local, we were able to put an offer on the house as soon as the owners unexpectedly lowered the asking price, and get them to accept it immediately, which was fortunate as the next day two other offers came in from out-of-staters.

Steve M
08-14-2008, 09:24 AM
Thanks for the info Ryan, being from Florida house prices down here are not as high as most places in the Northeast. Selling our house here would not leave a whole lot for up there so picking out a home and location is the tricky part. I surely don't mind a lot of snow in fact, that is one of the things I disliked about Connecticut. We got a lot of cold in the winter but not a lot of snow and I like to be active in the winter. I am soooo wanting to get back to skiing and skating with my kids on a pond.

Chris, I share your dream!

CHRIS
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
I should try to talk my wife into that renting for a year that makes alot of sense. When we decided to move up there 4 years ago I have to admit I got a little depressed with the house hunting also but never gave up my dream. I also love the winter and snow people that know me think I am nuts in the winter.

Rich
08-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Also with renting first, you're already in the area when that special "word of mouth" property is about to come on the market. You know...the one that you'll never hear about from a realtor because they're too busy showing you all the overpriced properties?

There's a new development going in in Bartlett right off of 302. All the homes are beautiful log "Aspen or Vail" type homes with ski on/off access and it's own chairlift. We've had our eye on them for over a year now. We stopped to look in one under construction and I heard some lumber banging around in the basement so I went out and around to say hello to the builder. Only problem was a bear came walking out of the garage instead of the builder. Pretty cool!

Brad
08-14-2008, 01:41 PM
Also with renting first, you're already in the area when that special "word of mouth" property is about to come on the market. You know...the one that you'll never hear about from a realtor because they're too busy showing you all the overpriced properties?

There's a new development going in in Bartlett right off of 302. All the homes are beautiful log "Aspen or Vail" type homes with ski on/off access and it's own chairlift. We've had our eye on them for over a year now. We stopped to look in one under construction and I heard some lumber banging around in the basement so I went out and around to say hello to the builder. Only problem was a bear came walking out of the garage instead of the builder. Pretty cool!
I wonder who the log home supplier is. Would it be one supplier with multiple plans? Some log suppliers are very good and unfortunately there are a lot who folks should stay away from.

Mike D
08-14-2008, 02:57 PM
Interesting site. Our town in Maine is not included in the search. Nor is the town next to us.

Though the "NNE" is for Northern New England, NNEREN seems to have the most house listings for New Hampshire. Maine and Vermont seem to be sparsely represented.

Bill O
08-14-2008, 03:38 PM
Great site. I was just going through looking at houses in Berlin, NH. Prices aren't so bad in the city. Anyone from Berlin on the forums that can shine some light on the city?

There are some very good reasons why houses are cheap in Berlin. Do some serious research on that topic. And that fact that taxes are cheap isn't necessarily a plus. You get what you pay for and if you don't pay much in taxes you aren't going to get much back from the city. There's a sweet spot for taxes. Too much and its socialism, too little and its anarchy.

Its a never ending loop. Depressed housing prices lead to a lower tax base. Lower taxes lead to worse services. Worse services lead to poor education funding. Poor education leads to nobody wanting to live there. Nobody wanting to live there leads to depressed housing prices.....

That's just one slice of the Berlin pie.

mtruman
08-14-2008, 05:15 PM
We stopped to look in one under construction and I heard some lumber banging around in the basement so I went out and around to say hello to the builder. Only problem was a bear came walking out of the garage instead of the builder. Pretty cool!

This look like him? ;)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/257079730_1455104ffb.jpg?v=0

Rich
08-14-2008, 07:54 PM
This look like him? ;)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/257079730_1455104ffb.jpg?v=0


Yup..that's him!

Brad, I was wrong on the style of the homes. They're shingled post and beam. If you click on this link you'll see one of them and it's beautiful!

http://www.visualtour.com/applets/flashviewer2/viewer.asp?t=1387356&sk=30

Steve M
08-14-2008, 07:58 PM
There are some very good reasons why houses are cheap in Berlin. Do some serious research on that topic. And that fact that taxes are cheap isn't necessarily a plus. You get what you pay for and if you don't pay much in taxes you aren't going to get much back from the city. There's a sweet spot for taxes. Too much and its socialism, too little and its anarchy.

Its a never ending loop. Depressed housing prices lead to a lower tax base. Lower taxes lead to worse services. Worse services lead to poor education funding. Poor education leads to nobody wanting to live there. Nobody wanting to live there leads to depressed housing prices.....

That's just one slice of the Berlin pie.

Yea, but the houses are still cheap.:D

Brad
08-14-2008, 08:12 PM
The way the post and beam is finished inside means it can be hard to place furniture. I like the old style windows with the small glass on top.

mtruman
08-14-2008, 09:00 PM
Brad, I was wrong on the style of the homes. They're shingled post and beam. If you click on this link you'll see one of them and it's beautiful!

http://www.visualtour.com/applets/flashviewer2/viewer.asp?t=1387356&sk=30

Very beautiful. Of course it says "models starting at $1.1M". So much for cheap living in NH. Not sure I'd want to quite that close to the ski lift either. I guess if you're going to ski every day it would be handy...

MsCntry
08-19-2008, 07:19 PM
Great site. I was just going through looking at houses in Berlin, NH. Prices aren't so bad in the city. Anyone from Berlin on the forums that can shine some light on the city?

We are about an hour from Berlin. I have heard that since the mill shut down, there isn't any work in the area, the closest work in in Conway 45 minutes away. If you don't mind the long drive. But if you like views, lakes, and everything that goes with it, look around Tamworth, Ossipee, Albany. They are all small towns, and the prices on the house are down right now!!;)

Diane