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rockin rex
09-03-2009, 12:02 PM
I guess it is that time again to guess first snow fall of 2 inches or more on the rock pile. I say the first snowfall will be on Sept. 26. Let the guessing begin. Sept. is already here.

mtruman
09-03-2009, 01:03 PM
I'm assuming that this means at least 2" in a single day as opposed to total accumulation. Based on that assumption I'll guess Oct 13.

(Last year it was Oct 21).

CHRIS
09-03-2009, 01:37 PM
I believe the way it has been getting alot cooler lately I am gonna go with Sept. 27th (my anniversary).

whitemtnvisitor
09-03-2009, 02:40 PM
I'll go with October 2nd.

TrishandAlex
09-03-2009, 03:40 PM
I'll guess October 1.

Brad
09-03-2009, 04:30 PM
October 11th will be the date

Snow Miser
09-03-2009, 04:44 PM
I will make it snow Sept 30th.:D Just kidding, that's my guess.

Charlie
09-03-2009, 06:05 PM
i will go with sept 23 my mothers birthday

Charlie
09-03-2009, 06:07 PM
and the prize will be to look and enjoy the snow on the deck cam :D

Brad
09-04-2009, 10:20 AM
We don't want too much snow as I want to drive to the summit with the new car to take pictures up there.

Patrad Fischroy
09-04-2009, 12:28 PM
I will stick a little closer to last year, 19 October

Rich
09-04-2009, 08:24 PM
My sons B-day....October 13.

Brad
09-04-2009, 08:31 PM
I guess it is that time again to guess first snow fall of 2 inches or more on the rock pile. I say the first snowfall will be on Sept. 26. Let the guessing begin. Sept. is already here.
Is there a deadline for when the guesses must be in by? we can not have folks waiting till the last minute and see the forecast for the next day - then guess.

How about midnight September 15th?

Charlie
09-04-2009, 08:37 PM
sounds good to me

Snow Miser
09-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Sounds good to me too.

rockin rex
09-05-2009, 08:54 AM
Brad that sounds fair. Sept 16th we can make a list of names and guesses and then see who is correct. I am hoping for early snow and lots of it.

donnellyvj
09-05-2009, 02:21 PM
My wife Brie and I will be married for 5 years on October 9th. So, I am going with Oct 9th....I think I split this one last year with Kaseri and we won the GRAND PRIZE. 2 years in a row guessing the same date. I must be crazy! Good luck everyone!

Brad
09-15-2009, 04:48 PM
Deadline is midnight tonight.

The list as of now is:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

KathyC
09-15-2009, 05:33 PM
I say October 18, my Birthday when I'll be in North Conway...:)

dvienneau
09-15-2009, 06:45 PM
Add me to the list. I predict that the first day to see 2 inches of snow will be October 15.
Dennis

Brad
09-17-2009, 08:11 PM
The list is final:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Snow Miser
09-17-2009, 08:18 PM
And now we patiently wait.:)

Brad
09-17-2009, 09:10 PM
And now we patiently wait.:)
Charlie does not have too long to wait till he sees he is out.

Charlie
09-18-2009, 05:17 PM
Let it snow let it snow let it snow

claaky23
09-19-2009, 02:45 AM
Although I am officially too late, I'd like to UNofficial submit October 10th. If I'm right the prize will be an eternity of bliss(Or so I've heard).

John

Bretton Woods Brat
09-19-2009, 06:40 AM
Awww man, I missed it! :mad: Good luck everyone.

Anna LeBlanc
09-19-2009, 07:42 AM
I'll throw in my guess and say Oct.5th my Mom's birthday.She always loved the snow.

M_Six
09-19-2009, 11:41 AM
That's not snow I see up there now in the North View camera image? Just rime?

spyboy
09-19-2009, 07:20 PM
Oh I missed it :(

Since Ice Out on Winnipesauke was on my birthday (4/12) I'll unofficially say my brother's birthday 10/6

Kirk

Breeze
09-19-2009, 07:46 PM
You are right, M Six, that is rime, not snow. The Auto Road opened to private cars to the summit just about 20 minutes after your post.

It was quite the day up there, I'm sure!!

Breeze

rockin rex
09-22-2009, 04:19 PM
Charlie I think it is time to start praying for snow on the rock pile : )

Charlie
09-22-2009, 08:27 PM
Charlie I think it is time to start praying for snow on the rock pile : )

it does not look good with 50* up top :(:(

Brad
09-22-2009, 09:18 PM
it does not look good with 50* up top :(:(
Maybe it can snow in 50 degree temps?

Charlie
09-24-2009, 11:54 PM
Maybe it can snow in 50 degree temps?

but i did not :(

Brad
09-25-2009, 09:05 PM
Charlie I think it is time to start praying for snow on the rock pile : )
Rockin Rex, it is your turn tomorrow. It is the 26th.

rockin rex
09-27-2009, 08:31 AM
Well I guess I am out of the running. Gook luck to the rest of you. May the snow fly early and stay late.

Brad
09-27-2009, 02:40 PM
Status check time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
----------------------- above the line is out of the running
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Snow Miser
09-28-2009, 07:06 PM
It looks like Chris is out. I'm next. I better try to work some of my magic, and quickly!:D:D:D

Brad
09-28-2009, 08:09 PM
Well, with
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj

They both have a several day spread to work off. whitemtvisitor has 10/2, 3, 4 and 5 to be closest. donnellyvj has 10/6, 7, 8 and 9 to work with - PLUS, donnellyvj shares 10/10 with Brad. They both have a good shot at the gold.

Anna LeBlanc
09-29-2009, 08:26 AM
Snow Miser,
Seeing my guess of Oct 5 missed the official entry date,I'm doing a snow dance for you and your guess of Sept 30th,May the snow gods shine down upon you:D

Snow Miser
09-29-2009, 11:20 AM
Snow Miser,
Seeing my guess of Oct 5 missed the official entry date,I'm doing a snow dance for you and your guess of Sept 30th,May the snow gods shine down upon you:D

Thank you! Thank you!

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.:)

Santa
09-29-2009, 09:21 PM
Its about time that it snowed on the summit! Only a few months until I make my rounds, and the Observatory is one of my favorite stops! I hope it snows up there soon!

Santa

Brad
09-30-2009, 05:37 AM
Status check time:

It is September 30th and I am looking at my web camera on the lake seeing a cloudless morning. It does not look good for Snow Miser.

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
----------------------- above the line is out of the running
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

May the Force be with you.

Snow Miser
09-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Its about time that it snowed on the summit! Only a few months until I make my rounds, and the Observatory is one of my favorite stops! I hope it snows up there soon!

Santa

I hope it snows soon too. You're going to need a good base in order to land your sleigh.:D And don't forget to bring plenty of gifts for the staff and Marty. Marty's probably working on his list right now: case of Pounce treats, new furry mouse attached to a stick, etc.:p

Snow Miser
09-30-2009, 08:01 AM
I just checked the Higher Summits Forecast and even though there is snow in the forecast for today, it looks like TrishandAlex may have a win. Go TrishandAlex!:)

Anna LeBlanc
09-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Bob I've been doing the snow dance all night for you:p If it dosen't work at least my legs will be in shape for our next hike.:DGood luck Bob we still have a few more hours for this thing to happen.;)

TrishandAlex
09-30-2009, 09:40 AM
I just checked the Higher Summits Forecast and even though there is snow in the forecast for today, it looks like TrishandAlex may have a win. Go TrishandAlex!:)

Woo-hoo! Virtual checks may be deposited in my pm account. :)

Snow Miser
09-30-2009, 10:22 AM
Bob I've been doing the snow dance all night for you:p If it dosen't work at least my legs will be in shape for our next hike.:DGood luck Bob we still have a few more hours for this thing to happen.;)

Anna, thanks for doing the snow dance for me.:) It's helping. And you're right, it's still early in the day. I suppose I have until 11:59pm tonight, then it rolls over to Trish&Alex' turn.

Brad
09-30-2009, 06:09 PM
Through yesterday we are at 0.0 inches of snow for the whole month!

Knapper
09-30-2009, 06:37 PM
Just to clarify, "snow" on the F-6 is any freezing precipitation. This means sleet, snow grains, graupel, small/large hail, ice crystals, or ice pellets all count for the "snow and ice column". The "Snow/Ice on Ground at 0600" column includes all of these plus accumulations of rime or glaze. Just want to make sure that people are looking at the right columns and now what counts in those columns in case we only get a trace of snow but an inch of snow/ice on the ground.

Brad
09-30-2009, 10:19 PM
I am lookin at the right column. The one with amount of snow on the ground is a flakey number. The Observor could dump a whole bunch of snow on the ground and then measure it to equal his answer. Not very scientific. We use the snow & ice column.

Snow Miser
10-01-2009, 06:46 AM
With only a trace of snow/ice last night, I'm out.:( But, I want to say, good luck to the rest of you.:)

Brad
10-01-2009, 06:53 AM
With only a trace of snow/ice last night, I'm out.:( But, I want to say, good luck to the rest of you.:)
You might be out. But, so far you are the only one who has even had a trace of snow.

Anna LeBlanc
10-01-2009, 08:02 AM
Too bad Bob,but you're still my favorite snowman:p.Good luck today to trish and Alex.:)

Anna LeBlanc
10-01-2009, 12:35 PM
It's 12:32P.M. and I just checked the WestView webcam.Is that snow I see or is that rime ice?If it's snow the kudos look like they'll be going to Trish and Alex.:)

Snow Miser
10-01-2009, 04:29 PM
Too bad Bob,but you're still my favorite snowman:p.

Thanks Anna! I very much appreciate it.:)

Snow Miser
10-01-2009, 04:32 PM
It's 4:30pm, and the Observation Deck looks like it has some snow on it. Just can't tell how much. Good luck Trish&Alex, maybe by tonight there will be two inches.:)

Knapper
10-01-2009, 08:35 PM
So looking at the our synoptic data since yesterday, 0.7" of snow has fallen (trace yesterday night, 0.7" today). Does this count as an inch or does it have to be a pure 1.0"?

Snow Miser
10-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Good question Ryan. I'm going to bet everyone says no rounding up.

Brad
10-01-2009, 09:15 PM
Good question Ryan. I'm going to bet everyone says no rounding up.
There is no rounding up. Must be 2.0" or more.

Bill O
10-01-2009, 09:37 PM
So looking at the our synoptic data since yesterday, 0.7" of snow has fallen (trace yesterday night, 0.7" today). Does this count as an inch or does it have to be a pure 1.0"?

I don't remember exactly how it was applied, but I always thought there was a circumstance where you rounded snowfall to the nearest inch. There is a standard if anybody wants to dig through the WMO regulations.

Knapper
10-01-2009, 10:42 PM
Bill O, I am not second guessing MWO station policy. I was wondering if it counted as an inch for this forums guessing game. The station policy for measuring snowfall is to the nearest tenth of an inch as its been since the 1930's for the six (or 12 hour in the 30s) synoptic observation. For snow/ice/rime on the ground, it is rounded to the nearest inch or trace if less than 0.5 inch. I think that is what you are referring to.

Brad
10-02-2009, 06:59 AM
For the contests we have always used whatever the F6 says. Yesterday was 1.1 inches on the F6 and that is the best showing yet - but not 2.0" or better.

As we go marching down through the list of precise guesses in the contest.

Bill O
10-02-2009, 08:15 AM
Bill O, I am not second guessing MWO station policy. I was wondering if it counted as an inch for this forums guessing game. The station policy for measuring snowfall is to the nearest tenth of an inch as its been since the 1930's for the six (or 12 hour in the 30s) synoptic observation. For snow/ice/rime on the ground, it is rounded to the nearest inch or trace if less than 0.5 inch. I think that is what you are referring to.

No, no, no, that's not what I meant. I know you guys do everything correctly on the summit. I just knew there was something rounded to the nearest inch, and that must be it...snowfall on the ground.

For anyone else wondering, WMO is the World Meteorological Organization. They literally wrote the book on the guidelines used to observe the weather.

TrishandAlex
10-02-2009, 05:35 PM
Ah well, guess I can't collect those virtual checks. Good luck to everyone else!

CHRIS
10-02-2009, 06:23 PM
That stinks Trish. If you would have won the virtual checks you could have bought some virtual gear:D.

Brad
10-02-2009, 07:09 PM
The forecast says rain tomorrow. Time is running out as we tick off the names on our list.

Status check time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
----------------------- above the line is out of the running
10/2 whitemtnvisitor (and not looking good at this point in the day)
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

TrishandAlex
10-02-2009, 07:46 PM
What happens if no one wins?

Breeze
10-02-2009, 09:39 PM
We raise a toast to Indian Summer?

:)

Breeze

Brad
10-03-2009, 12:47 PM
What happens if no one wins?
The normal rule is the winner is whoever is closest. So, whitemtnvisitor 's guess applies to today also. If it is the 19th or any date afterwards Patrad wins.

When a contest is set up, one could define it differently.

Brad
10-04-2009, 06:11 AM
Well, the 3rd had a lot of rain but no snow.

KD Talbot
10-04-2009, 05:31 PM
it snowed up there on the 1st and 2nd. Alright, I get it, you're looking for 2" or more. Looks pretty close to me. :)

http://www.viewsfromthetop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32572

KDT

Snow Miser
10-08-2009, 10:54 AM
The weather is getting nastier, oops, I mean better, on the summit. But still no 2 inches.

Brad
10-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Status update time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
----------------------- above the line are out of the running
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Brad
10-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Status update time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
----------------------- above the line are out of the running
10/10 donnellyvj & Brad
10/11 Brad
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Donnellyvj and Brad share for today - but it is not looking good.

Anna LeBlanc
10-11-2009, 04:52 PM
Kathy,maybe your birthday present will be two inches of snow on the summit while your up North and you'll win this contest.:D

KathyC
10-11-2009, 05:25 PM
That would be ...:cool:

I already started packing to go, I can't wait. But last years Bday was Terrific, driving to the top and meeting Marty in person.:)

Snow Miser
10-12-2009, 06:51 PM
After reading Brian's forecast for Oct 13th in the Comments, it looks like mtruman & Rich may be the winners.:)

Brad
10-12-2009, 07:12 PM
The forecast is getting better to have a winner - soon.

Status update time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/10 donnellyvj & Brad
10/11 Brad
----------------------- above the line are out of the running
10/13 mtruman & Rich
10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Snow Miser
10-12-2009, 07:26 PM
That would be ...:cool:

I already started packing to go, I can't wait. But last years Bday was Terrific, driving to the top and meeting Marty in person.:)

Happy Birthday Kathy!:) Are you planning on visiting Marty and the crew again if the Auto Road is open?

Brad
10-12-2009, 07:41 PM
Happy Birthday Kathy!:) Are you planning on visiting Marty and the crew again if the Auto Road is open?
Marty asked her to come visit and stay for a week.

Brad
10-12-2009, 07:44 PM
I got my last waterski run in this afternoon after work. But, the Comments say the weather will improve again. Maybe it will not be the last one.

Anna LeBlanc
10-12-2009, 07:44 PM
If Kathy brings up food and treats for Marty she may be spending the Winter on the summit with him.;)

Snow Miser
10-12-2009, 08:03 PM
If Kathy brings up food and treats for Marty she may be spending the Winter on the summit with him.;)

And I'm sure he will keep toasty warm on her lap too.:D

Anna LeBlanc
10-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Maybe Kathy could bring up Marty his little velcro booties so he can go snowboarding with Mike and skiing with Ryan.


I hear since Marty heard the first real snow will be tomorrow he's asking Santa for goggles and a helmet this year too.:p

rockin rex
10-13-2009, 08:51 AM
Looks like we have a winner. Weather above tree today looks like winter is fast approaching. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. Congrats Mark and Rich.

bclark
10-13-2009, 10:23 AM
Looks like we have a winner. Weather above tree today looks like winter is fast approaching. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. Congrats Mark and Rich.

Indeed you do have a winner! We measured 2.4 inches at the morning synoptic observation, with some more yet to come!

Snow Miser
10-13-2009, 10:59 AM
Congratulations Mark and Rich!!!

Brad
10-13-2009, 12:56 PM
It is premature to give out congratulations since the official record for the contest is the daily F6. But, we have an inside (or is it an outside) source who says we have exceeded the 2.0 inch mark. Actual confirmation will be in tomorrow's F6. But, the celebrations can begin.

Brad
10-13-2009, 12:57 PM
Assuming tomorrow's F6 validates this, we have the results.

Status update time:

9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad

10/13 mtruman & Rich - Winners

10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

bclark
10-13-2009, 02:07 PM
It is premature to give out congratulations since the official record for the contest is the daily F6. But, we have an inside (or is it an outside) source who says we have exceeded the 2.0 inch mark. Actual confirmation will be in tomorrow's F6. But, the celebrations can begin.

Your source is currently inside but is going to head outside to take some pictures of the drifts that are starting to form for our page on Facebook. :p

I just measured another 1.3 at he 18Z synoptic, bringing the storm total to 3.9 inches. Still coming down out there though.

Rich
10-13-2009, 03:26 PM
Congrats Mark! We should meet up there for a celebratory hike! My son is 10 today and he said it would snow on his b-day on the summit! Never question a 10year old!

Anna LeBlanc
10-13-2009, 08:25 PM
Congratulations Mark and Rich! Rich you should be very proud of your son.Wish him a Happy Birthday from all of us.:D

KathyC
10-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Congrats to you both....

October is one of the greatest months of the year....:D

KathyC
10-13-2009, 08:59 PM
Maybe Kathy could bring up Marty his little velcro booties so he can go snowboarding with Mike and skiing with Ryan.


I hear since Marty heard the first real snow will be tomorrow he's asking Santa for goggles and a helmet this year too.:p

I was in PetSmart yesterday and I thought about getting him and my cat another Halloween costume, they had a cute red devil and witch hat for the cat. The more I looked at them, I said no way will they wear this. My cat will wear her spider collar again, she's in my avatar. Marty has a matching one, I gave it to him last year.

Won't make the summit this year.:(

Knapper
10-14-2009, 02:07 AM
Well, since some of you don't find weather observers/meteorologist on the actual summit reliable sources of information for this contest (even though neither of us entered), the excel version of the WS Form F-6 has been posted with an "official" 7.4 inches for the 13th of October.

Brad
10-14-2009, 06:12 AM
We have a Winnah-s. Congratulations, officially, to Mark and Rich! 7.4 inches shows up on the F6 this morning.

TrishandAlex
10-14-2009, 07:39 AM
:D

Congrats, Mark and Rich!

Anna LeBlanc
10-14-2009, 04:02 PM
I was in PetSmart yesterday and I thought about getting him and my cat another Halloween costume, they had a cute red devil and witch hat for the cat. The more I looked at them, I said no way will they wear this. My cat will wear her spider collar again, she's in my avatar. Marty has a matching one, I gave it to him last year.

Won't make the summit this year.:(

Kathy,maybe the guys could just get some washable white markers and make Marty a cute little skunk this year for Halloween.:D

I'm sure Marty will be very proud to wear his spider collar from his Auntie Kathy this year too.

Sorry you won't make it to the summit this year but I'm sure Marty knows how much you love him.

He was very affectionate and playful when we visited him this Summer.He makes the purrrrfect Halloween mascot don't you think?;)

____________________

Anna

mtruman
10-14-2009, 09:51 PM
Congrats Mark! We should meet up there for a celebratory hike! My son is 10 today and he said it would snow on his b-day on the summit! Never question a 10year old!

Same to your Rich! The hike sounds like a great idea! Maybe not on Mt Washington with all the snow though :rolleyes:. You picked your son's birthday and I picked our anniversary (30 this year). Looks like a lucky date for many reasons! Now all we have to do is collect our prizes. I think it was a winter Edu-trip, right? :) Oh, and Happy Birthday to your son.

donnellyvj
10-15-2009, 08:52 AM
Congrats.:D

Brad
10-15-2009, 04:58 PM
Now all we have to do is collect our prizes. I think it was a winter Edu-trip, right? :)
Mark, I am sure you need lots more Edu and you are a trip. So, you must be right.