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afmrintern
01-22-2007, 10:56 AM
A hiker apparantly spent the last two nights out, including Saturday's brutal weather. It's good to stay on the F&G's email service for updates!

Anyone know any more about this?

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Newsroom/News_2007/News_2007_Q1/Search_Lost_hiker_012107.htm

I hope he's alright and this story ends well...

AlpineHikerFan71
01-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Here is the link to WMUR in Manchester, not much about the story though.
Like Afrmintern said,
Lets hope this story turns out positive
http://www.wmur.com/news/10812993/detail.html

Patrad Fischroy
01-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Here is the link to WMUR in Manchester, not much about the story though.
Like Afrmintern said,
Lets hope this story turns out positive
http://www.wmur.com/news/10812993/detail.html


The story now reports that he was found alive.

AlpineHikerFan71
01-22-2007, 02:10 PM
http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_022095210.html

They found him consciuos!!!!!! :)

Brad
01-22-2007, 02:13 PM
http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_022095210.html

They found him consciuos!!!!!! :)
Interesting quote from the article - "Gagnon was trained in cold-weather campaign and officials remained optimistic during their search."

I assume they meant "camping" instead of "campaign".

AlpineHikerFan71
01-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Interesting quote from the article - "Gagnon was trained in cold-weather campaign and officials remained optimistic during their search."

I assume they meant "camping" instead of "campaign".

Nice pick up Brad. I just overlooked that , and am happy that he is alive and resecued. I would agree with you that they meant camping as well

Patrad Fischroy
01-22-2007, 04:43 PM
I don't know, it is NH afterall, and there is only one year until the primary. Maybe he was out doing some recon for a rally or something...

Again, most importantly, he was found alive.

KD Talbot
01-22-2007, 05:18 PM
I am also glad he is found alive, the thought of a young man freezing to death alone gives me the creeps. Without trying to sound harsh I would like to point out that parties, intentionally or not, breaking up is a far too common occurence in the Whites and has led to many unnecessary deaths. Staying together and "pacing your hike to the slowest person" is one of the most important things to consider on any hike in the mountains. Joe Dodge would have some choice words for this "Goofer". I'm sure the modern day "Joe Dodge" Mike Pelchat would have a thing or two to say, also. No one should have to go out and risk their lives in sub-zero temps and hurricane force winds because someone couldn't follow simple rules of conduct for winter hiking. Anyway, I hope others will learn from this and take the time to learn some common sense rules. As refered to in the news articles, here's a good place to start-

http://www.hikesafe.com/welcome.html

It kind of makes it sound like he did everything right to stay alive, which I guess he did, but he never should have been in that situation to begin with.

KDT

Bill O
01-22-2007, 06:23 PM
It's kind of a strange situation. They split up, but it was the faster hiker who went ahead and got lost. Usually its the slower one. Presumably this guy was in charge so its likely all three of them would have been lost if they followed him.

As in all cases its easy to say they did something stupid...they always do. But I guarantee that when they were making the decisions nobody thought it was stupid, it never appears to be at the time.

Rescuers risking their lives? They might be, but they love it. That's why they signed on to mountain rescue. Its a common misconception in the media. People like Oprah and Rosie just don't get it.

Brad
01-22-2007, 06:27 PM
Yes, this was one of the common comments about the Mt Hood situation. "The rescuers were risking their lives ..." But, in a couple of interviews you heard the rescuers wanting to get up on the mountain because they love to be out there.

KD Talbot
01-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they didn't plan on things breaking down the way they did. If he was the leader he should have known better, though. As for the rescuers I can't say, but they will be on tonight at 11 on wmur, so we may get an idea of what they're thinking. I'm not a fan of oprah or rosie so I don't know what they have to say, but they should use these examples to educate others who may go out and make the same mistakes.
KDT

Brad
01-22-2007, 06:33 PM
There was another successful rescue on Mt Adams a few days ago also. We do not always hear about the events - or have a chance to understand what happened - and learn from them. It is quite a team effort to pull off a rescue like this - lots of discipline - and very qualified folks.

A link to the other rescue is at http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Newsroom/News_2007/News_2007_Q1/Search_2_Rescues_011107.htm

rockin rex
01-22-2007, 07:02 PM
I have been on the Bridle path many times and don't really understand this story. Something is missing. The trail from Greenleaf to Lafayette is alittle scratchy but from Greenleaf to the parking lot is wide well marked and easy to follow. Were they on the Bridle path or were they caught on the ridge and because of bad weather just begun to head down. In that situation I fully understand how you could have a problem. Between Falling Waters trail and Bridle path is a ROUGH area and not an area I would want to descend.
At least he was found alive and we have a chance to learn from others mistakes.

Charlie
01-22-2007, 07:18 PM
Rescuers risking their lives? They might be, but they love it. That's why they signed on to mountain rescue. Its a common misconception in the media. People like Oprah and Rosie just don't get it.


I'm on a SAR team that is a member of the mountain rescue assoc .and we do it because we love to do it and most of all know how to do it the safe way .
the closest MRA team up north is from Stowe Vermont and there good at what they do .
so the SAR teams train a lot and that's why they go out in the bad weather and be safe .

Brad
01-22-2007, 07:56 PM
I have been on the Bridle path many times and don't really understand this story. Something is missing. The trail from Greenleaf to Lafayette is alittle scratchy but from Greenleaf to the parking lot is wide well marked and easy to follow. Were they on the Bridle path or were they caught on the ridge and because of bad weather just begun to head down. In that situation I fully understand how you could have a problem. Between Falling Waters trail and Bridle path is a ROUGH area and not an area I would want to descend.
At least he was found alive and we have a chance to learn from others mistakes.
One of the reports said he was just off the summit. And that he had descended on the Pemi Wilderness side.

KD Talbot
01-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Allright. I would like to apologize to all SAR people for suggesting they were risking their lives being out in -15 temps and hurricane force winds shaking the bushes for lost goofers. I love to be "out there" too, in all weather, but I'd rather be by the fire with a beer under those conditions. Anyone here ever heard of Albert Dow?

PS- I was on a crash rescue team in the Air Force. This doesn't make me an expert on mountain rescue by any means, but I do have some clue.

Patrad Fischroy
01-23-2007, 09:06 AM
Sadly, one turns out good while another not at all

http://www.denverpost.com/newsheadlines/ci_5061961

In this case, it appears inexperience added to going it alone came up with a fatal outcome.
Unlike the mild conditions in the Northeast mountains, here in Colorado, it has been a rough month, I think the total for the city has been about 56" over that time.
Waterton Canyon is about 30 minutes South of the city, it is the start of the Colorado Trail. It is where the South Platte River comes out of the Rocky Mountains.

spyboy
01-23-2007, 02:20 PM
via MSNBC.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16756289/

So, do we need to start a new forum for rescues? Seems to be quite a few in the news lately, not just for New England either.

bruno
01-23-2007, 03:03 PM
glad the dude was found all right!