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Brad
08-14-2010, 03:31 PM
It is time to start thinking about snow. Well, we have plenty of time to think about summer still. But, one must be prepared for snow. Therefore, this is the kickoff post for the 2nd Annual Fall Pick the Day of First Snow on the Summit Contest.

The rules are:

Select the day when the daily F6 report shows 2.0" or more of snow for that date.

There can only be one entry for a day. Whoever gets their post in first has that date.

If your date has past and there has not been 2.0" or more of snow, you are out - in the cold.

You may only enter once.

If you work for a company that alters the weather, makes snow over 6,000 feet, or can move mountains to be under snow clouds - you are not allowed to enter.

The winner gets to make a huge snowman at the base of Tuckerman Headwall by themselves.

For reference, here are the results from the 1st Annual Contest:

Status update time:


9/23 Charlie
9/26 rockin rex
9/27 CHRIS
9/30 Snow Miser
10/1 TrishandAlex
10/2 whitemtnvisitor
10/9 donnellyvj
10/11 Brad

10/13 mtruman & Rich - Winners

10/15 dvienneau
10/18 KathyC
10/19 Patrad Fischroy

Let the best snowman or woman win.

BAXTERCA2
08-14-2010, 03:58 PM
10-4-10
I don't like huge snowmen so, if I win I'll be making a normal size snowman.

Charlie
08-14-2010, 11:17 PM
im going with the same date of 9/23 because i will be up top that week and i want to see snow :cool: :D :cool: :D

Snow Miser
08-15-2010, 01:37 PM
I'll go with 10/10. Oh, and I love rules 5 and 6 :-)

Brad
08-15-2010, 04:18 PM
I'll go with 10/10. Oh, and I love rules 5 and 6 :-)
Bob,

Rule 5 is absolutely required. It would not be fair to have an inside track and advantage over the rest of us. We all need to be on a level playing field as we pointedly deal with higher subjects. We all do have lofty goals here.

Rich
08-15-2010, 06:45 PM
10/13 again. My sons 11th B-day too.

Brad
08-16-2010, 10:24 AM
I am going with 10/14

Brad
08-16-2010, 10:26 AM
Here are the selected dates so far:

9/23 Charlie
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/10 Snow Miser
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad

CHRIS
08-16-2010, 12:48 PM
I have to go with 9-27 because thats our Anniversary.

KSearl
08-16-2010, 08:36 PM
I'll go with 10-2.

Karl

Anna LeBlanc
08-17-2010, 12:50 PM
I'll take Oct 5th.That was my Mom's birthday and she always loved snow.

_________
Anna

Breeze
08-19-2010, 05:18 PM
10-15-2010

because I do not want to jinx that Holy Moley How Many Cars Can We Put Up Columbus Day weekend.

Breeze

ETA I'll be one of the first to hear Road Crew singing Frosty The Snowman or Jingle Bells.

Trailsend
08-19-2010, 09:14 PM
I am going to go with October 7th.

Brad
08-20-2010, 11:23 AM
Here are the selected dates so far:

9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6
10/7 Trailsend
10/8
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16

Breeze, we know you work up there on the Auto Road. Are you sure you can not alter the weather?

tdb1977
08-21-2010, 09:12 PM
10/6 please. Thanks :)

njgail11
08-21-2010, 10:51 PM
My guess is OCT. 1 Brad i noticed you wrote that this is the 2nd contest, but i would like to remind you that it is not. You had one that you posted on 8-1-2008 where i shared first place with Rockin Rex. So this would be 3rd contest actually unless there where more before that i don't know about. Just thought i would let you know.
Thank You.

BAXTERCA2
08-21-2010, 11:33 PM
Is that true Brad:confused::confused::confused:

Brad
08-22-2010, 05:36 AM
My guess is OCT. 1 Brad i noticed you wrote that this is the 2nd contest, but i would like to remind you that it is not. You had one that you posted on 8-1-2008 where i shared first place with Rockin Rex. So this would be 3rd contest actually unless there where more before that i don't know about. Just thought i would let you know.
Thank You.
You are correct. This is the 3rd First Snow Contest. The first one was looking for 1.0 inches of snow.

KathyC
08-22-2010, 09:09 AM
I'll keep 10/18 my Birthday. Though this year I'm going up a week earlier, Columbus Day weekend to go to the Fryburg Fair.

dvienneau
08-22-2010, 09:49 PM
Since my 10/15 from last year has already been taken, I guess I'll go with the next available date of 10/16.
Dennis

billysinc
08-23-2010, 10:59 AM
Put me down for 10/11 I should have my snow making, mountain moving machine done by then.

whitemtnvisitor
08-23-2010, 11:31 AM
October 17

Brad
08-23-2010, 06:51 PM
Here are the selected dates so far:

9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 (2008 contest winner)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend
10/8
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

And because of Billysinc's comment about starting up his snow making equipment and working to move the mountain we have set special controls in place. 1) We all know that snow making is a flakey business. So, we are not too concerned with his possible success. The high winds will probably blow his fluff away. 2) We have installed a highly accurate GPS device on the summit to record if the mountain does get moved. We will all know the cause of said movement and bring out our billy clubs.

Let the precise guesses continue to come in.

rockin rex
08-24-2010, 10:23 AM
Since us New Jersey folk won in 2008 I will guess the same as njgail. My guess is 10/1.

Brad
08-25-2010, 10:04 PM
Since us New Jersey folk won in 2008 I will guess the same as njgail. My guess is 10/1.
We have to have official approval to do this - from njgail11 - as this is against rule #1. But, in the case of NJ folks who don't follow rules well anyway, this might be okay.

KathyC
08-26-2010, 04:59 AM
NJ may not be the greatest place, but there some some pretty Great people over here...:p

Stets
09-03-2010, 09:33 PM
Let's go with October Eighth in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Ten.

Brad
09-05-2010, 09:16 PM
Here are the selected dates so far:

9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend
10/8 Stets
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

tdb1977
09-16-2010, 04:01 PM
So, I just got an email that said the first snowfall of the season has occured yesterday. The summit picked up .4" and I see no one guessed that day.

tdb1977
09-16-2010, 04:03 PM
So, I just got an email that said the first snowfall of the season has occured yesterday. The summit picked up .4" and I see no one guessed that day.

I see the contest goes until the first 2" ammount happens. I guess I really should get my eyes checked before I post anything. :o

Brad
09-16-2010, 04:26 PM
I have heard that snow blindness can be cured with an altitude adjustment by being at least 6,288 feet above sea level east of the Rockies.

westbrookcaddyman
09-17-2010, 06:45 PM
;) sept 19th

billysinc
09-20-2010, 08:03 AM
So my first test of the new snow producing equipment went well on Sept 15th. I can't wait to fire it up again in a couple of weeks on the 11th.

Brad
09-20-2010, 01:44 PM
So my first test of the new snow producing equipment went well on Sept 15th. I can't wait to fire it up again in a couple of weeks on the 11th.
I heard it only make a small cloud in the bathroom. So, you have a lot more work to do to manage snow for the summit.

Brad
09-20-2010, 08:04 PM
Here are the updated dates so far:

9/19 westbrookcaddyman

above the line are out
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9/20
9/21
9/22
9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend
10/8 Stets
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

BAXTERCA2
09-26-2010, 12:27 AM
Let me just say up front I'm not qualified to forecast the weather anywhere.

But, I'm going to throw out my long range (unqualified to forecast) forecast anyway, just like I did for STP weekend. It's looking like the below dates/people may have the first shot at winning this contest. Stay tuned as next weekend approaches, we could have a potential winner or at least more that 0.4" worth of snow.

10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2

Over and out 10-4

Brad
09-26-2010, 12:15 PM
Here are the updated dates so far:

9/19 westbrookcaddyman
9/20
9/21
9/22
9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25

above the line are out
-----------
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend
10/8 Stets
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

Steve M
09-27-2010, 07:20 AM
I did not see any entry date cut off so I will jump in, even though all the good dates are taken..:p I will say 10/19.

Brad
09-27-2010, 04:26 PM
I did not see any entry date cut off so I will jump in, even though all the good dates are taken..:p I will say 10/19.
Based on the heatwave up here, your date might just be the best one yet. Glad you were able to jump in and enter.

rockin rex
10-01-2010, 05:55 AM
If temps drop, us Jersey folk could win, again. Come on cold blow the hot air out.

Brad
10-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Cold air is not enough - you need snow. Oct 1st had 2 inches but it was in the wrong column.

BAXTERCA2
10-05-2010, 05:51 AM
I'm out...

Brad
10-05-2010, 08:21 PM
I'm out...
And we will find out in the morning that Anna is out too.

Anna LeBlanc
10-07-2010, 12:48 PM
And we will find out in the morning that Anna is out too.

Looks like you're right Brad.Schucks!!!!:p

_______________

Anna

Brad
10-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Here are the updated dates so far:

9/19 westbrookcaddyman
9/20
9/21
9/22
9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend

above the line are out
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10/8 Stets
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

I may be a bit early, but it sure looks like Trailsend will be out too. We have cold temp coming in. But, will we have the required amount of snow?

HANDYMAN
10-09-2010, 01:55 PM
10 /12 it is. Our anniversary.

Brad
10-10-2010, 06:19 AM
Here are the updated dates so far:

9/19 westbrookcaddyman
9/20
9/21
9/22
9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend
10/8 Stets
10/9

above the line are out
-----------
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12 HANDYMAN
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad
10/15 Breeze
10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

The forecast for the next 2 days does not look good for Bob or Billy. Maybe the 12th will be a lucky day for our new barefoot friend. Go Kevin!

Snow Miser
10-10-2010, 07:13 PM
With only a few hours left to today, I'm out.:(

But, good luck to everyone else who remains! :)

Brad
10-10-2010, 07:19 PM
It should be noted that we are currently investigating every entry from the 1st of October on to make sure they do not get invalidated due to rule #5. We do not run a sloppy contest.

njgail11
10-11-2010, 08:14 PM
What does that mean?

Brad
10-11-2010, 08:18 PM
The rules are:

1. Select the day when the daily F6 report shows 2.0" or more of snow for that date.

2. There can only be one entry for a day. Whoever gets their post in first has that date.

3. If your date has past and there has not been 2.0" or more of snow, you are out - in the cold.

4. You may only enter once.

5. If you work for a company that alters the weather, makes snow over 6,000 feet, or can move mountains to be under snow clouds - you are not allowed to enter.

6. The winner gets to make a huge snowman at the base of Tuckerman Headwall by themselves.

The original rules are re-posted here with numbers. Rule #5 is important - we do not want anyone to have a fair advantage.

Snow Miser
10-11-2010, 08:33 PM
The original rules are re-posted here with numbers. Rule #5 is important - we do not want anyone to have a fair advantage.

Does that mean I may not be able to enter next time? :D

Brad
10-11-2010, 08:35 PM
Does that mean I may not be able to enter next time? :D
It depends on which part of rule #5 applies to you and what the contest topic is.

billysinc
10-12-2010, 07:51 AM
I don't work for a company that does that. My snow making, mountain moving machine is home made so I was still in. Until today, I couldn't get the final part I needed because of the holiday. Maybe next year.

Brad
10-12-2010, 12:35 PM
I don't work for a company that does that. My snow making, mountain moving machine is home made so I was still in. Until today, I couldn't get the final part I needed because of the holiday. Maybe next year.
Next year the rules could be slightly different. But, we do know for this year - you are out. Rich has today and tomorrow according to the rules. But, he also has beautiful non-snow weather days. Does Breeze have a chance as we approach the weekend storm?

KathyC
10-13-2010, 07:58 PM
The 18th is coming!!:p

Brad
10-13-2010, 08:52 PM
The 18th is coming!!:p
Friday might have a chance - maybe?

smithtim
10-13-2010, 11:52 PM
November 4th or the day after the Yankees get knocked out of the postseason, whichever comes first!



Ohhhhhhh and while we're at it please form some nice climbable ice in Huntington's by say Dec 15ish as that looks like my "weekend trip" this year.... hoping to go up Yale Gully if I can get somebody to tie a rope with, or south gully if solo..............but probably way to early for the ice to form?




:)

Brad
10-14-2010, 08:44 PM
As we wrap up the 14th, I know I am out unless it starts snowing hard real fast.

smithtim
10-14-2010, 09:50 PM
Friday might have a chance - maybe?

Looks like you called it.......


"Precipitation will be heavy at times and although this storm should see mostly snow on the higher summits, with temperatures hovering right around freezing, rain, freezing rain, sleet, or wet snow can be expected this afternoon through Friday."

Quote taken from
http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/summit_forecast.php

Bill O
10-15-2010, 07:29 AM
I'm predicting we have a winner today. Summit has been reporting snow for the past six hours.

Brad
10-15-2010, 07:50 AM
Contest Admin has been notified that someone is trying to move the mountain away from this storm so she can win at her later picked date. So, therefore and for ever more - this specific individual contest is closed to new entries. May the Snow Gods rain - or is it reign?:cool:

Snow Miser
10-15-2010, 07:57 AM
The first thing I read today was Brian's "Observer Comments", and then I knew, today should be the winning day for the "Snow Contest". Good luck Breeze! :)

Breeze
10-15-2010, 11:21 AM
It's blowing a pretty stiff "breeze" up there, don't know if it's even sticking to be measured. At 10 AM it was mixed precip down to 4300" We'll have to wait until the day's tally is posted.

If there is any "prize" for this, it is that the road closed for the day, and I'm home, warmed up, and dried off.

Breeze

Bill O
10-15-2010, 11:36 AM
It's pretty much in the bag, except somebody forgot to code the morning snow total in the synoptic metar at 7am (or is it 6am?)....interns.

Brad
10-15-2010, 04:39 PM
It's blowing a pretty stiff "breeze" up there, don't know if it's even sticking to be measured. At 10 AM it was mixed precip down to 4300" We'll have to wait until the day's tally is posted.

If there is any "prize" for this, it is that the road closed for the day, and I'm home, warmed up, and dried off.

Breeze
Bask in the warmth of your winning position. The F6 in the morning will be the official answer. But, it sure looks like you are left holding the snow shovel.

Breeze
10-15-2010, 05:23 PM
Um Brad, I have it on record that < I > don't HAVE access to a shovel. I just deliver news and try to stay dry and warm.

All grats and props go to others who do the real < drive> work. The MWAR road crew who punch through all manner of crap weather until they can' t: MWSP crew CHAINING UP all 4 at the Toll House to get to the top to fire up the kitchen, for hikers and trains, the Summit HIKER Shuttle crew who come in every day wanting to work, hoping to work, wanting to get people DOWN from the summit safely. Getting Dianne, Mike , Joannie , Chris, Bill, Gus, Danny and others up safely with the latest and current beta......

So many people come together, to make the whole thing possible, it's hard to tell end from beginning. Getting to the end of it all for another season is tough. I don't work shift change, and I really regret not knowing faces and names.




Breeze

Knapper
10-15-2010, 05:41 PM
... somebody forgot to code the morning snow total in the synoptic metar at 7am (or is it 6am?)...

All 931xxx and 4/xxx groups have been coded today according to the RAW METAR archive: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=pqr&sid=KMWN&num=72&raw=1&dbn=m

The only thing I can find wrong is the COR sent in had the wrong hour so this may have made some METAR readers make it appear incorrect.

Brad
10-15-2010, 06:37 PM
Um Brad, I have it on record that < I > don't HAVE A shovel. I just deliver news and try to stay dry and warm.

All grats and props go to others who do the real < drive> work. The MWAR road crew who punch through all manner of crap weather until they can' t: MWSP CHAINING UP at the Toll House to get to the top to fire up the kitchen, for hikers and trains, the Summit HIKER Shuttle crew who come in every day wanting to work, hoping to work, wanting to get people DOWN from the summit safely.

So many people come together, its hard to see the end.

Breeze
We will declare the official winner tomorrow morning when the F6 is published. But, with 5 inches on the ground at the last measurement, it sure sounds like you picked the right day.

Breeze
10-15-2010, 07:46 PM
Waiting for the official tally. With actual wind speeds close to 80 MPH for much of the day, which snowflake got measured?

Breeze

Bill O
10-15-2010, 07:47 PM
All 931xxx and 4/xxx groups have been coded today according to the RAW METAR archive: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=pqr&sid=KMWN&num=72&raw=1&dbn=m

The only thing I can find wrong is the COR sent in had the wrong hour so this may have made some METAR readers make it appear incorrect.

I think I need to get a new source, that data did not flow over to the metar on wunderground.com (it used to in the past). Thanks for the update and better web link.

Brad
10-15-2010, 07:51 PM
Waiting for the official tally. With actual wind speeds close to 80 MPH for much of the day, which snowflake got measured?

Breeze
It is suprising any snow ended up in the precip can with that wind.

Brad
10-16-2010, 07:05 AM
NEWS FLASH - NEWS FLASH - NEWS FLASH

We have a winner! The F6 this morning reports that the summit got 5.6 inches of snow yesterday. Therefore, Breeze wins this year's First Snow contest.

Being the winner allows her, according to the contest rules, to go back into Tuckerman Ravine and make a huge snowman all by herself. She does not need to go by herself. It is the making of the snowman that is all her glory. Congratulations to Breeze.

Here are the results:

9/19 westbrookcaddyman
9/20
9/21
9/22
9/23 Charlie
9/24
9/25
9/26
9/27 Chris
9/28
9/29
9/30
10/1 njgail11 w/ rockin rex (2008 contest winners - but skunked this year)
10/2 KSearl
10/3
10/4 BAXTERCA2
10/5 Anna LeBlanc
10/6 tdb1977
10/7 Trailsend (0.8 inches of snow)
10/8 Stets (0.9 inches of snow)
10/9
10/10 Snow Miser
10/11 billysinc
10/12 HANDYMAN
10/13 Rich
10/14 Brad (0.2 inches of snow)

10/15 Breeze - 5.6 inches of snow and THE WINNER

10/16 dvienneau
10/17 whitemtnvisitor
10/18 KathyC

Let's give a hardy round of noise with the ice breaking crowbar for Breeze.

KathyC
10-16-2010, 07:46 AM
Congrats to you Breeze!!!:)

Snow Miser
10-16-2010, 11:53 AM
Congratulations Breeze! You now have bragging rights. :)

Breeze
10-16-2010, 05:46 PM
Thank you all!

Don't for New Hampshire minute think I'm going into Tucks straight away to build a snowman! This isn't snowman snow!

Road crew reports today indicate serious drifting, hard, icy, compacted windblown stuff with the addition of stubborn rime over glaze ice. 4 FOOT snowbanks at 6 mile park, dusting to 1/2 inch at 3800 feet.

ALL the summits up in the notch are vanilla frosted today down to that 3800' , when they were visible between squalls.

We had fleeting views this morning of Boott Spur and Left Gully. It is seriously white up there. Not the place to be heading for right now unless one is truly prepared for full-on-worst-of-winter and ready to turn around.

My warm and dry prize of yesterday was great, but obviously I'll be finding my winter work gig SOON. Happens every October, and I am sad to be away from the place until mid-May. I'm glad that I can stay connected through this forum.

( hey-- it was just a lucky guess).

Breeze

smithtim
10-16-2010, 11:18 PM
congrads breeze

and happy "climbing season" to all..... wish I was there but won't be untill mid December..... In the mean time I'll be dreaming of your mountains daily and before to long I'll be getting the file out to clean up my crampons & ice tools :cool:

margocale
12-11-2010, 12:41 PM
It is nice to see how other people react to weather when there is considerable snow around.

There are certainly a large number of people who are not afraid of the snow.

Charlie
12-12-2010, 05:48 PM
It is nice to see how other people react to weather when there is considerable snow around.

There are certainly a large number of people who are not afraid of the snow.

people on this site love the snow