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Brad
12-26-2010, 01:23 PM
The Rules Committee is meeting right now for the January Wind Speed Contest. Watch for updates and make sure you get your guess(ES) in by January 15th at midnight. Guesses submitted before January 1st will not count because you do not know what the contest will be or the rules around it. So, just stay put for a few days.

This contest will be like none ever done before - here on the forum. This is why the Rules Committee has been working to define things precisely so we will have a clear winner. It may take several days to write the rules down - in between snow shoveling - shoveling into the precip can is not allowed.

Brad
12-28-2010, 08:51 AM
January Wind Speed Contest

Rules:


The source of all real data is the Obs F6 report as reported on the web site at http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/f6/2011/01.pdf
The time period for data is for the whole month of January 2011
Each entry MUST contain two (2) answers to be valid. Invalid entries or answers will not be added to the list of entries till they are corrected or completed
Entries can not be submitted until 00:00:01 on 01/01/11 to be considered
All entries must be submitted by January 15th at midnight (actually by 11:59:59 PM)
Answer #1 - is the AVERAGE WIND SPEED for the month to the one tenth of a MPH. Entries will be rounded to the nearest tenth for you if you do not know how to do that correctly.
Duplicates ARE ALLOWED for the AVERAGE WIND SPEED for the month
Answer #2 - Is the FASTEST WIND SPEED for the month
The FASTEST WIND SPEED must be to whole MPHs (no tenths because the F6 does not report in tenths for some reason - maybe due to poor math skills)
The FASTEST WIND SPEED does NOT allow duplicates. The entry posted and time stamped first for a specific fastest speed is the only valid entry for that speed.
The WINNER is the entry with the correct AVERAGE wind speed.
If there are multiple entries for the winning average wind speed, the winner is determined by the FASTEST wind speed entry closest to the correct answer and DOES NOT exceed the correct answer.
If a winner is still not determined by these complex, convoluted rules, I win.
As is normally assumed in these contests, anyone living to the north or west of the mountain who has the ability to generate sufficient wind to alter the results is not allowed to enter
Anyone tall enough to stand and block the anemometer on the tower top should quit hiking and sign up for pro basketball
Anyone who knows the answer beforehand should be quiet and submit a wrong answer anyway.
The winner gets to go to the closest store of the new Mt Washington Observatory partner, which is replacing LL Bean as of January 1st, and buy something they always wanted to treat themselves for such a fantastic achievement.


Let the games begin and entries start to flow on January 1st.

mtruman
12-28-2010, 06:03 PM
Holy cow - that's some big set-o-rules you got there! Quite the prize too!

I already have my numbers formulated, but of course not wanting to violate rule 4 I will delay my entry for exactly 3 days, 5 hours, 57 minutes and 12 seconds. Damn, that's already wrong. Didn't hit POST quick enough.

Snow Miser
12-28-2010, 07:25 PM
I've got my numbers formulated too! Come on 00:00:01 on 01/01/11.

Brad
12-28-2010, 08:49 PM
Folks should have plenty of time to become a Rules Lawyer, do their research, define the strategy, and then come up with their guesses. This is serious business and takes a bit of time.

I have not gotten my answers yet. But, maybe I can bank on rule # 13.

BAXTERCA2
12-28-2010, 09:46 PM
I'll play but, I'm not sure I agree with rule #13. :confused:

Brad
12-28-2010, 10:23 PM
I'll play but, I'm not sure I agree with rule #13. :confused:
There were 2 situations which I was trying to cover in the rules and I missed one of them in the set of rules. The other I figured had a very slim chance of happening - so I made rule #13.

I will go back to the rules committee tomorrow when we are rested and see how to alter the rules to cover those 2 cases better.....

Brad
12-29-2010, 04:36 PM
January Wind Speed Contest

Rules (Revision 1):


The source of all real data is the Obs F6 report as reported on the web site at http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/f6/2011/01.pdf
The time period for data is for the whole month of January 2011
Each entry MUST contain two (2) answers to be valid. Invalid entries or answers will not be added to the list of entries till they are corrected or completed
Entries can not be submitted until 00:00:01 on 01/01/11 to be considered
All entries must be submitted by January 15th at midnight (actually by 11:59:59 PM)
Answer #1 - is the AVERAGE WIND SPEED for the month to the one tenth of a MPH. Entries will be rounded to the nearest tenth for you if you do not know how to do that correctly.
Duplicates ARE ALLOWED for the AVERAGE WIND SPEED for the month
Answer #2 - Is the FASTEST WIND SPEED for the month
The FASTEST WIND SPEED must be to whole MPHs (no tenths because the F6 does not report in tenths for some reason - maybe due to poor math skills)
The FASTEST WIND SPEED does NOT allow duplicates. The entry posted and time stamped first for a specific fastest speed is the only valid entry for that speed.
The WINNER is the entry with the correct AVERAGE wind speed.
If there are multiple entries for the winning AVERAGE wind speed, the winner is determined by the FASTEST wind speed entry closest to the correct answer. This means the closest could exceed the correct answer. If there is a tie, then the earliest time stamp for the entry wins.
If the correct AVERAGE wind speed is not guessed by anyone, then the next lower entry is the winner - unless there are multiples at that answer. In the case of multiples, the above tie-breaker rules for the FASTEST wind speed takes over. If there is no lower AVERAGE wind speed entry, then the lowest one entered wins or at least goes into the tie-breaker using the FASTEST wind speed if there are multiples.
As is normally assumed in these contests, anyone living to the north or west of the mountain who has the ability to generate sufficient wind to alter the results is not allowed to enter
Anyone tall enough to stand and block the anemometer on the tower top should quit hiking and sign up for pro basketball
Anyone who knows the answer beforehand should be quiet and submit a wrong answer anyway.
The winner gets to go to the closest store of the new Mt Washington Observatory partner, which is replacing LL Bean as of January 1st, and buy something they always wanted to treat themselves for such a fantastic achievement.


These revisions are to cover the 2 outstanding issues with the convoluted rules. Plus, it means I have to do my own guessing. Oh well...

mtruman
12-29-2010, 05:18 PM
I will go back to the rules committee tomorrow when we are rested and see how to alter the rules to cover those 2 cases better.....

Just out of curiosity is there anyone on the rules committee besides you and Marty?

Brad
12-29-2010, 05:43 PM
Just out of curiosity is there anyone on the rules committee besides you and Marty?

How did you figure out that Marty was on the committee? I kept on saying we need to keep things simple for you all. He wanted to make sure you jumped through hoops to win this one.

Snow Miser
01-01-2011, 12:11 AM
My guess is:
- average wind speed = 44.5 MPH
- fastest wind speed = 121 MPH

whitemtnvisitor
01-01-2011, 12:22 AM
46.4 for the average.
117 for the fastest.

mtruman
01-01-2011, 12:28 AM
Average = 42.0 (obviously)
Fastest = 126.0


Happy New Year all!!!

Rich
01-01-2011, 07:58 AM
Average- 41.0
Fastest- 112

Happy New Year!

tdb1977
01-01-2011, 09:13 AM
Average - 49.2 MPH
Fastest - 137 MPH

BAXTERCA2
01-01-2011, 09:18 AM
Average = 45.9mph
Fastest = 105mph

Brad
01-01-2011, 09:24 AM
The entries are coming in fast. I will start putting the list up so it will be easier to do your scientific guessing.

Average wind speed = 42.5 MPH

Fastest wind speed = 122 MPH

Charlie
01-01-2011, 12:12 PM
Average = 43.5mph
Fastest = 135mph

CHRIS
01-01-2011, 12:35 PM
My guess is:
- average wind speed = 39.6 MPH
- fastest wind speed = 133 MPH

MeridenFF
01-01-2011, 01:00 PM
Average 47.3
High of 127

Brad
01-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Here is the list of entries as of now.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

Anna LeBlanc
01-03-2011, 12:53 PM
I will say we have an average wind speed of 45.1 MPH and a fastest wind speed of 130MPH.

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Anna

climbered
01-03-2011, 01:31 PM
Happy New Year All !!!
Just got home yesterday from my trip to the Mount Washington area for Christmas. The snow on Sunday / Monday was awesome, even got up in the Auto Road's Snow Coach on Tuesday. Here are my guesses for the wind contest:

Avg wind --> 46.2
High Wind --> 123

ed

Brad
01-03-2011, 02:24 PM
Here is the list of entries as of now.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.1 MPH - 130 MPH Anna LeBlanc
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.2 MPS - 123 MPH climbered
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

sdways01
01-03-2011, 05:28 PM
I am going to guess an average of 48.6mph and a max of 118mph

Brad
01-03-2011, 05:37 PM
Here is the list of entries as of now.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
48.6 MPH - 118 MPH sdways01
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

Remember entries must be submitted by 11:59:59 PM January 15th.

KSearl
01-03-2011, 05:57 PM
Hi,

Okay, I'm getting in on this before the ballot closes...unlike in December!

Ave. Wind Speed 55.2mph

Fastest Wind Speed 154mph

Thanks,
Karl

billysinc
01-03-2011, 06:39 PM
Put me down for 44.1 average 119 peak.

Brad
01-03-2011, 06:42 PM
Here is the list of entries as of now.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.1 MPH - 119 MPH billysinc
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
48.6 MPH - 118 MPH sdways01
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977
55.2 MPH - 154 MPH KSearl


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

Remember entries must be submitted by 11:59:59 PM January 15th.

averagejoe
01-04-2011, 01:57 PM
Avg--43.1 MPH
Peak--131 MPH

MichaelRupkalvis
01-04-2011, 06:08 PM
average 46.0 MPH
Peak 122 MPH

Brad
01-12-2011, 07:02 PM
Mark - check out the F6 report as of yesterday - the 11th!!!!

mtruman
01-13-2011, 07:40 AM
Mark - check out the F6 report as of yesterday - the 11th!!!!

This couldn't happen back to back could it???

Snow Miser
01-13-2011, 07:50 AM
This couldn't happen back to back could it???

Mark, Did you win last year? I don't recall.

Brad
01-13-2011, 10:35 AM
The F6 had Mark's guesses almost exactly. But, we still have half the month to go - with a good pitot running too.

mtruman
01-14-2011, 07:10 AM
Actually I was referring to the December snowfall contest where I was nudged out by 2 tenths. On the average wind speed number yesterday Brad had me by 2 tenths. I didn't actually take the time to calculate the overall standings as my Cray is currently down for maintenance. :rolleyes: Apparently my overall guess is OK at the moment. Long way to go...

Anna LeBlanc
01-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Here is the list of entries as of now.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
48.6 MPH - 118 MPH sdways01
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

Remember entries must be submitted by 11:59:59 PM January 15th.

Where did my name go? Did I get blown off the summit already? ;-)


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Anna

tdb1977
01-14-2011, 02:17 PM
Come on big winds! I need some big winds the second half of this month to achieve stardom or should I saw windom :D

Brad
01-14-2011, 03:20 PM
Where did my name go? Did I get blown off the summit already? ;-)


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Anna
Anna, I pulled the wrong list and you were dropped of the edge of the Headwall. When I do the final tally after midnight tomorrow I will make sure you are pulled up to be included again.

Anna LeBlanc
01-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Anna, I pulled the wrong list and you were dropped of the edge of the Headwall. When I do the final tally after midnight tomorrow I will make sure you are pulled up to be included again.


Thank you Brad,that Headwall can be one tough place to get back up on when I good stiff breeze is blowing.:)

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Anna

Brad
01-15-2011, 06:01 AM
LAST DAY to enter. Entries must be post marked before midnight tonight. This also means we are half way through January already.

Brad
01-16-2011, 08:11 AM
Here is the list of official entries. If I missed someone, please let me know.

----- Avg ------- Fastest
----- Wind ------ Wind


39.6 MPH - 133 MPH CHRIS
41.0 MPH - 112 MPH Rich
42.0 MPH - 126 MPH mtruman (obviously)
42.5 MPH - 122 MPH Brad
43.1 MPH - 131 MPH averagejoe
43.5 MPH - 135 MPH Charlie
44.1 MPH - 119 MPH billysinc
44.5 MPH - 121 MPH Snow Miser
45.1 MPH - 130 MPH Anna LeBlanc
45.9 MPH - 105 MPH BAXTERCA2
46.0 MPH - 122 MPH MichaelRupkalvis (top speed is not valid since it was already taken)
46.2 MPH - 123 MPH climbered
46.4 MPH - 117 MPH whitemtnvisitor
47.3 MPH - 127 MPH MeridenFF
48.6 MPH - 118 MPH sdways01
49.2 MPH - 137 MPH tdb1977
55.2 MPH - 154 MPH KSearl


Note 1: The Average Wind Speed can be picked by multiple people
Note 2: The Fastest Wind Speed must be unique - no duplicates (this is the tie-breaker)

Michael, pick your top speed again - quickly - and I will update it.

mtruman
01-23-2011, 09:08 PM
Looks like the winds are picking up the next few days. Hopefully enough to get the average up about 3.2mph. The current peak speed is just fine :cool:

Brad
01-24-2011, 06:25 AM
As of right now Chris "Low-ball" is leading in the contest. The average wind speed is not even in our guessing range yet.

Brad
01-25-2011, 08:32 AM
39.6 MPH for average speed. Chris has it right on the nose. However, we have a few more days and the average should be going up (I hope).

BAXTERCA2
01-26-2011, 05:53 AM
Dust in the wind!!

Brad
01-26-2011, 06:38 AM
We are at 39.8 MPH and Chris is still the leader because of convoluted rule #13 in the amended rules. If the correct average speed is not guessed, the next lower guess wins. So, Chris (Mr. Lowball) is in the lead.

Brad
01-27-2011, 11:38 AM
We are down to 39.1 MPH for the average speed and running out of time for the month to end. Chris, may be the winner - but, we will have to get the legal team in here to read the convoluted rules to make sure.

Crank up the wind machine!

CHRIS
01-27-2011, 12:07 PM
WOOOHOOOO.. I think I might be going to be the winner..:) :) :)

Snow Miser
01-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Chris, what will you buy yourself at EMS as a prize? :D

CHRIS
01-27-2011, 03:24 PM
I think I will treat myself to a gallon or two of paint from Lowes to get my house finished to sell instead.

Brad
01-28-2011, 05:54 AM
We are now 38.5 MPH and Chris is holding a solid lead as we come into the final stretch. 4 days to go.

CHRIS
01-31-2011, 07:49 AM
Average wind speed still 36.7 hehe hehe haha haha :):):)

BAXTERCA2
01-31-2011, 09:18 AM
Average wind speed still 36.7 hehe hehe haha haha :):):)

Keep your kilt down buddy!!!

Snow Miser
01-31-2011, 09:26 AM
Keep your kilt down buddy!!!

LOL! It ain't over til it's over. :D But it's looking like he's got it.

BAXTERCA2
01-31-2011, 07:28 PM
LOL! It ain't over til it's over. :D But it's looking like he's got it.

He's got what? The win or great legs.

Snow Miser
01-31-2011, 07:53 PM
He's got what? The win or great legs.

Definitely the win! :p

CHRIS
01-31-2011, 08:00 PM
MWAHAHAHAHA I win I win WooHoo.. I think I will buy myself something this weekend.

Brad
01-31-2011, 08:20 PM
MWAHAHAHAHA I win I win WooHoo.. I think I will buy myself something this weekend.

There is one day left for data - no winning till the end is here - tomorrow.

CHRIS
02-01-2011, 07:41 AM
So has anybody checked the average wind speed yet? hehehehe ;);):D:D

billysinc
02-01-2011, 07:58 AM
Congratulations! You win a case of Nair hair remover.

Brad
02-01-2011, 07:59 AM
Chris (Mr Low Ball) is the winner!!!!! Next time you are in Maine I will buy you an ice cream cone.

CHRIS
02-01-2011, 08:04 AM
It isn't going to be filled with yellow snow now is it?

rockin rex
02-01-2011, 09:07 AM
Congrats Chris.

Snow Miser
02-01-2011, 12:38 PM
Congratulations Chris!!! Enjoy the ice cream cone. (w/o yellow snow!)

Anna LeBlanc
02-01-2011, 09:37 PM
Congratulations Chris! I think we should all chip in and buy you a thermal or fleece lined kilt!!!!:p

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Anna