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jmac
01-20-2011, 10:46 AM
Hi,

4 of us are going to hike MW next week and we are trying to figure out what trail to take. (Thinking either Ammonoosuc or Tuckerman/Lion Head)

In December of 08' we left out of Pinkham Notch and took Tuckerman Ravine to Lion Head Winter. It was a nice hike but coming down we tried a different trail close to the auto road (i forget the name). We ended up losing the trail and then ended up trudging down the auto road.

We have taken Ammonoosuc many times in the past but never this late in the year (maybe middle November at the latest). I think Ammonoosuc is more scenic but there is no escape route to the auto road if things get rough.

Im wondering how others have faired taking Ammonoosuc around this time of year, where do we park and any other helpful info you might have?

Thanks,
J

smithtim
01-22-2011, 02:29 AM
it is doable but you're right there is no "escape auto road."

What you could do, if you're really worried about an escape route, is stage a car at Pinkman then drive in another car around & start your hike on the Ammonoosuc ravine... head up if it gets bad well follow your steps and compass back down, or if it looks good do a traverse over the top & descend the auto road or Lion's head (which is pretty well traveled/marked so should be easy to follow... that hermit shelter at the bottom of tucks ravine is a good marker if your not in whiteout conditions )


Not sure of how many miles that would be, what speed your group hikes, if it is doable in a day etc,


Best of luck for a good day hiking

jmac
01-22-2011, 10:10 AM
Cool we were actually just discussing taking 2 cars up to do that.

Do you know if there is any place to park the car overnight down the Base Station road? I read that they usually don't plow all the way down to the cog railway parking lot.

Thanks for the reply
J

jmac
01-23-2011, 11:22 PM
Not sure why my previous reply didnt go through but thanks for the reply smithtim.

I was wondering if anyone knows the parking situation on the Base Station road? I read that it usually isnt plowed all the way to the cog railway parking lot. We would need to park it over night.

Thanks
Jason

jmac
01-25-2011, 09:40 AM
To add to my previous question about parking has anyone here ever sleded down the auto road? I read that cheap roll up sleds aren't going to cut it.

Knapper
01-25-2011, 04:47 PM
To add to my previous question about parking has anyone here ever sleded down the auto road? I read that cheap roll up sleds aren't going to cut it.

Sledding down the auto road is not allowed due to it still being an active road in the winter. Snow tractors from the observatory and State Park run up and down the mountain at any given time of day and Snow Coaches run on a frequent schedule to half way up the road. So you will constantly risk getting run over or hit when swinging around the corners at a fast pace. I know you think you'll be able to stop in time or they will be able to stop on a dime but having attempted sled trips in the past, this isn't the case. This is why even the observatory isn't allowed to sled down any longer.

Brad
01-25-2011, 07:54 PM
I know the road pretty well and can just see a snow tractor with its wide blade heading up the road - about to come around a corner and a fast moving sled comes down. There are two answers to this scene. One is the sled and rider stop quickly when they crash into the plow blade. The other is a sled with a body flying off into the air off the side of the road. Neither is a pretty sight to think about.

jmac
01-25-2011, 10:09 PM
Bummer. Ok how about the parking situation on the base station road? We definitely want to take the Ammonoosuc Ravine trail.

Brad
01-26-2011, 06:50 AM
Bummer. Ok how about the parking situation on the base station road? We definitely want to take the Ammonoosuc Ravine trail.
This is a question that comes up each year - and I do not know if the answer varies by year. I should drive over and see what the status is. Not sure I can pull that off today - but, I might give it a try.

jmac
01-26-2011, 10:51 AM
That would be very cool of you sir!

Thanks
J

Brad
01-26-2011, 04:31 PM
I was in N Conway at noon - so, I popped over thru Crawford Notch to see what it was like. Lots more snow there than on the east side of the range. The road back to the Cog had been plowed but not for the last storm. That one was probably 3-4 inches and folks have just packed it down as they drove by.

As you get to being able to see the Cog building there is a sign for hiker parking to the right. There were 2 cars there. The regular hiking parking lot had not been plowed.

Road going in
http://images16.fotki.com/v3/photos/5/8235/9442074/IMG_3631-vi.jpg

A bit further in just starting to see the mountain
http://images114.fotki.com/v145/photos/5/8235/9442074/IMG_3632-vi.jpg

Cog hiker parking on the right
http://images58.fotki.com/v85/photos/5/8235/9442074/IMG_3633-vi.jpg

There were several cars around the base station building as folks were working there.

jmac
01-26-2011, 10:12 PM
Wow thank you so much for finding that out for me i really appreciate that!

If you are going to be near the Red Parka Pub Saturday night let me know and we'll buy you a beer or two!

Cheers
J

Brad
01-27-2011, 11:33 AM
Wow thank you so much for finding that out for me i really appreciate that!

If you are going to be near the Red Parka Pub Saturday night let me know and we'll buy you a beer or two!

Cheers
J
No problem. I am a real estate agent (in Maine) and do stuff for people.

jmac
01-28-2011, 03:54 PM
No problem. I am a real estate agent (in Maine) and do stuff for people.

Cool. If u are in that area email nin9999 at gmail . com.

Brad
01-29-2011, 09:12 PM
We rolled through the area - even stopped at the Cog base station for a few minutes - then went to N Conwy and home. Had a dinner date so we missed you. Hope you had a good hike.

jmac
01-30-2011, 06:15 PM
It was a really nice day for a hike (not extreme elements like we were hoping but nice).

We took the Ammonoosuc Ravine Trail up. It was packed down enough that we didnt need our snow shoes.

Visibility was pretty bad above tree line due to fog and snow especially after the hut. We couldnt find the carins and veered off course a couple times.

When we got to the summit it was as calm as i have ever witnessed it.

On the decent we attempted to sled down the auto road using Merkian Missile Sleds. Sledding was really a waste of time because the road wasnt steep enough for the sleds. Maybe if we had sleds with more surface area it would have been ok.

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Brad
01-31-2011, 08:23 PM
You picked a pretty good day. the wind today started around 70 MPH and dropped to 40 MPH when we were out on the summit.

rockin rex
02-01-2011, 09:14 AM
O.K.I have always wondered this and since sled came up I will ask it. I know sledding down the auto road is not allowed but has anyone ever attempted to sled from the summit to Pinkham or is that not even possible. The head wall would most likely be the most difficult area. Just curious.

Brad
02-02-2011, 10:50 AM
Well, one spring we were at the base of the Headwall taking pictures of skiers. One person went up the right side with an inner tube about 3/4s of the way up. When he came down he was okay for the first bounce. the 2nd bounce had him no wheres near the inner tube.

On the left side 1/3rd of the way up 2 fellows had plastic sleds. The first made it most of the way down. The 2nd guy did not even make it through the first bounce.

Net - I would not try it.

Tuber going up
http://images16.fotki.com/v272/photos/5/8235/9423016/CRW_2116-vi.jpg

Tuber starting down
http://images58.fotki.com/v511/photos/5/8235/9423016/CRW_2146-vi.jpg

Tuber?
http://images54.fotki.com/v460/photos/5/8235/9423016/CRW_2151c-vi.jpg

Sleds
http://images58.fotki.com/v511/photos/5/8235/9423016/CRW_2040-vi.jpg

He started at the big rock
http://images32.fotki.com/v1090/photos/5/8235/9423016/CRW_2091-vi.jpg

Full set of photos from that day
http://public.fotki.com/bradbradstreet/hikes/mt-washington/2008-04-19-inferno