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Charlie
11-18-2011, 05:14 PM
I went to EMS to look for a pair of insulated or not and i tried on all the extra large and they did not fit ,i went on line and they only have 1 that comes in 2 x
i may get a pair of theses and use my EMS rain pants over them
http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=10979874&lmdn=Category&cp=3707807.12194889

and why do they only have them with an in seam of 31 or 32

Snow Miser
11-18-2011, 05:50 PM
I have the same problem, but on the other side of the size spectrum. :D Why don't they make more sizes in both large and small? The same thing happens with street clothes too. :mad:

Charlie
11-18-2011, 08:31 PM
your right ,i was looking to get this before my week up top but i cant find any thing
last winter i was outside with a snow blower over 20hr with just a thin pair of long johns shorts and my rain pants ,i was never cold .i know it wont be the same up top so thats why im getting the fleece pants

mrohssler
11-19-2011, 07:44 PM
I have North face Freedom Insulated and uninsulated pants and love them . they come in all sizes and inseam lengths

CHRIS
11-20-2011, 07:07 PM
Charlie. I have a pair of these and I wore them one time over my EMS tech wick base with rain pants over the first time I attempted Mt. Pierce and I was so hot and was sweating my butt off and it was -4 out. You should ask Ryan or Brian if you really need them .

Bill O
11-20-2011, 09:45 PM
Unless I was sitting in an ice fishing shanty all day or climbing Denali I would never buy insulated "snow pants" for outdoor activities.

Insulation is what you wear under your water proof layer and can be adjusted as needed depending on the conditions.

For New England that would be:

Midweight long underwear
Expedition weight long underwear
Fleece pants
Outer Layer (waterproof)

The outer layer and fleece layers should have full side zips.

Charlie
11-21-2011, 08:30 PM
thanks Bill
i just got the EMS Atlas Fleece Pants (http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=10979874) with a 20% college discount from Becky
i will use these when im not moving much and it is very cold out
i also got a new head lamp the BLACK DIAMOND Storm (http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=11086072) was $50 got it with a 30% discount it was the last one

not a bad deal