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Zach_MIT
04-30-2007, 11:02 PM
A few of my friends and I are interested in hiking up the Tuckerman trail on May 12th. Would anyone like to guess on what the trail conditions will be like? Are crampons and poles necessary, or will good boots do? We're all relatively inexperienced, so I'm basically trying to determine whether we're biting off more than we can chew.

Thanks for any insight,
Zach

Steve M
04-30-2007, 11:14 PM
Trail: Tuckerman's Ravine Trail
Date Hiked: 4-25-07

Conditions: Packed snow

Special Required Equipment: Bare booted it on the way up. Used snowshoes for the return. I would suggest snow crampons for both ways. Poles are a help.

Comments: Was realtively quiet today in the ravine. Some skiers and snowboarders provided entertainment. Wait for the weekend if you want more action to observe.

Submitted by:skibones

Got this off of "Views form the Top" website. See link below:

http://www.viewsfromthetop.com/trail/nh/index.html

You may want to consider Lion's Head Trail. Just a suggestion.

Zach_MIT
04-30-2007, 11:18 PM
Thanks for the reply. I saw that post too, but I figured a lot will change in three weeks, especially during this time of the year.

Steve M
04-30-2007, 11:28 PM
That's true. Welcome to the forums by the way!!:D

Joey Keyz
05-01-2007, 01:02 AM
Always be prepared for ANYTHING.
Ya never know what your gonna get this time of the year.

And like WSR88D said, "Welcome To MWO"

Brad
05-01-2007, 06:04 AM
Always be prepared for ANYTHING.
Ya never know what your gonna get this time of the year.

And like WSR88D said, "Welcome To MWO"
Having been caught in terrible weather conditions - horizontal freezing rain - snow white out conditions - in the summer, I know that anything can happen up there with the weather. Joey is right - be prepared for anything. Start watching the weather a week or more before going up. Watch what the weather is - how it is changing - what it does throughout the day - see how that changes as you get closer to your hike day. Then judge what the weather will be on hike day and pick what is practical for those conditions.

The beauty of the mountain is that each year everything is different. A few warm days and a lot of the snow pack could be gone. But, at night it will freeze back up. Right now it is 18 degrees on the summit. Check out the Auto Road Vertical Temperature profile page to see how the temperatures change as one goes up. It is an excellent tool.
www.mountwashington.org/weather/arvtp/

KD Talbot
05-01-2007, 06:19 AM
You don't say if you're planning on going to the summit via Tux. If you are you will almost definitely need crampons and probably an ice ax and the knowledge of their use to climb the headwall, if the trail is not shut due to falling ice. It could also be impassable due to melting snow and flooded trails. There is good advice in the previous posts. Be prepared for anything and have an alternate plan. You may have to take the Lion's Head route, in which case you will probably still need crampons at the very least. If you're inexperienced the amount of knowledge you need to make a safe trip at this time of year on Mount Washington cannot be gained in a couple of quick posts. Check the section of this website that describes climbing MW and the equipment you will need, and check the previous thread about fall hiking on MW. There is a load of excellent information there. Good luck and hike smart.
KDT

Joey Keyz
05-01-2007, 07:23 AM
I forgot what mountain I was climbing at the time, but I do remember what happened that day. I checked the weather forecast before making the climb. All was great it said. Clear blue skies, not much wind and temps in the high 40's at the base. I humped up slowly for a few hours (I love to look around and take pictures) and all of a sudden, the dark clouds came in. It began to snow so hard. It was beautiful in one way but scary in an other way. I didn't expect THAT! I was alone. (I love hiking alone) But being a hiker who likes to hike alone, I have to make sure my pack is totally complete for any situation. This means I have one of the heaviest packs known to man! haha But...like we are all saying here.......be prepared for anything. It's worth it!

Bill O
05-01-2007, 07:59 AM
What's your plan? Are you going to the summit or just to watch skiing in the floor of Tuckerman Ravine?

It makes a difference. Going to the summit you are probably going to need crampons and ice axe, unless there is an epic meltdown in the next two weeks.

Going to the floor of the ravine you wont need any of that. Maybe some ski poles to help, but you could make it without crampons and ice axe very easily.

Zach_MIT
05-01-2007, 09:56 AM
All, thanks for the advice. We wanted to hike to the summit, but are willing to take other routes like Lion Head or Boott Spur. I'm pretty sure that none of us have crampons. I'm beginning to think it might be better to do this in June/July, in which case I'll have to wait until next year. I'm thiking we might just go and hike to watch the skiers but not push for the summit.

Thanks again.

KD Talbot
05-01-2007, 10:05 AM
You'll need crampons on Lion's Head, maybe not on Boott Spur. If you're just going to the bowl to watch skiers and not pushing for the summit, good waterproof boots will do it and a pole (or 2), as Bill says. If you postpone until June or July the blackflies'll eat ya alive, until you get above treeline. I like to hike in September the best, but you have to be real careful about the weather, as you do all year, but theres no flies.
KDT

Canadian hiker
05-01-2007, 01:24 PM
Hi. I was planning of coming to Mount Washington tomorrow to ski it down with friends of mine.

I was wondering if it's absolutely mandatory to have crampons because we don't have some. You seem to insist pretty much on that point. If so, is it possible to borrow or rent some at Pinkham Notch or I should bring some from the city.

The plan would be to hike tuckerman's ravine all the way up and ski whatever is skiable

Thanks for the upcoming feedback

Bill O
05-01-2007, 01:34 PM
Hi. I was planning of coming to Mount Washington tomorrow to ski it down with friends of mine.

I was wondering if it's absolutely mandatory to have crampons because we don't have some. You seem to insist pretty much on that point. If so, is it possible to borrow or rent some at Pinkham Notch or I should bring some from the city.

The plan would be to hike tuckerman's ravine all the way up and ski whatever is skiable

Thanks for the upcoming feedback

You probably don't need any. Most people just boot up Tuckerman's to ski it. Especially if the snow is softened by the sun.

Patrad Fischroy
05-01-2007, 04:59 PM
Winds ranging from 0-120+ mph
Full sun to blowing snow, possible snow blindness to whiteout conditions (and everything in-between)
Temperatures ranging from the mid to high 60's, above or below zero ( OK, that might be exaggerating it a bit)

Steve M
05-02-2007, 10:17 AM
All, thanks for the advice. We wanted to hike to the summit, but are willing to take other routes like Lion Head or Boott Spur. I'm pretty sure that none of us have crampons. I'm beginning to think it might be better to do this in June/July, in which case I'll have to wait until next year. I'm thiking we might just go and hike to watch the skiers but not push for the summit.

Thanks again.

Being inexperienced at this and not really sure of yourself you would be making a good decision to do this hike in the summer first where the weather is less likely to turn deadly. Trail conditions can change as rapidly as the weather. Even small mistakes or miscalculations could become a major deal quickly. Winter still has its hold on the mountain above tree line even in May. Another thought is to hike it with a guide that has experience on the mountain. It will cost you more but the benefits would be worth it in terms of peace of mind and the education they can provide.

Joey Keyz
05-03-2007, 08:46 AM
Hi. I was planning of coming to Mount Washington tomorrow to ski it down with friends of mine.



Well........Let's have it.......pictures.......story?

How did it go CH?

kaseri
05-09-2007, 08:15 AM
All, thanks for the advice. We wanted to hike to the summit, but are willing to take other routes like Lion Head or Boott Spur. I'm pretty sure that none of us have crampons. I'm beginning to think it might be better to do this in June/July, in which case I'll have to wait until next year. I'm thiking we might just go and hike to watch the skiers but not push for the summit.

Thanks again.

Zach,

I am planning a summit attempt on the same day. As of right now I am planning on going Boott Spur to the summit & back down the same way. If you still think that you are going to try climbing on the 12th shoot me an email or a private message & we can discuss the undertaking. It's serious business up there at any time of the year but Winter is when the Whites are truly a magical place.

Canadian hiker
05-14-2007, 08:37 PM
Well........Let's have it.......pictures.......story?

How did it go CH?


Sorry for the slow answer. I was in a climbing mountain mood in the lasts days and wasn't close from a computer. Ski was great when I went there from may 2 to may 4. It was a bit windy though and cold. There was plenty of snow. I had a grat time

I heard tuckerman's ravine trail thru the ravine was presently close due to melting snow

kaseri
05-14-2007, 10:39 PM
I made the climb on Saturday & the weather was amazing. At the last moment they opened Lions Head Summer route & I decided to take it to the summit. I descended via Boott Spur. Here is a link to the photos....

Mt. Washington Photos From 5/12/07 (http://public.fotki.com/kaseri/mt-washington-51207)