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  1. #11
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    Jan 2007
    Wahiawa, HI
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    Your always about the rules! Rules, Rules, Rules!

    Quote Originally Posted by KD Talbot
    I've posted this about a thousand times so far, I don't get sick of it, but I'm sure others do. The rules you have found basically cover below tree line camping. Here's more detailed rules for the Presidentials:


    Presidential Range-Dry River Wilderness

    Wilderness regulations, intended to protect Wilderness resources and promote opportunities for challenge and solitude, prohibit use of motorized equipment or mechanical means of transportation of any sort. Camping and wood or charcoal fires are not allowed within 200 ft. of any trail except at designated campsites.
    Hiking and camping group size must be no larger than 10 people. Camping and fires are also prohibited above the treeline (where trees are less than 8 ft. tall), except in winter, when camping is permitted above the treeline in places where snow cover is at least 2 ft. deep, but not on any frozen body of water. Many shelters have been removed, and the remaining ones will be dismantled when major maintenance is required; one should not count on using any of these shelters.

    Forest Protection Areas

    The WMNF has established a number of Forest Protection Areas (FPAs)—
    formerly known as Restricted Use Areas—where camping and wood or charcoal fires are prohibited throughout the year. The specific areas are under continual review, and areas are added to or subtracted from the list in order to provide the greatest amount of protection to areas subject to damage by excessive camping, while imposing the lowest level of restrictions possible. A general list of FPAs in this section follows, but since there are often major changes from year to year,
    one should obtain current information on FPAs from the WMNF.

    (1) No camping is permitted above treeline (where trees are less than
    8 ft. tall), except in winter, and then only in places where there is at least
    2 ft. of snow cover on the ground—but not on any frozen body of water,
    and not on the east face of Mt. Washington's summit cone from Boott
    Spur to Nelson Crag (the area above Tuckerman and Huntington Ravines,
    including the Alpine Garden area). The point where the above-treeline
    restricted area begins is marked on most trails with small signs, but the
    absence of such signs should not be construed as proof of the legality of
    a site.

    (2) No camping is permitted within a quarter mile of any trailhead,
    picnic area, or any facility for overnight accommodation such as a hut,
    cabin, shelter, tentsite, or campground, except as designated at the facility
    itself. In the area covered by Section 1, camping is also forbidden within a
    quarter mile of Glen Ellis Falls.

    Forget building any fires, get a small, lightweight white gas backpacking stove if you don't already have one. I lost track, you had so much gear. Try to keep the pack under 25-30 lbs, that would be enough gear for a winter attempt! I have trouble getting myself over those hills on day hikes, never mind over 30 lbs of gear.

    I agree with the others, lose the shovel and gun, too much added weight, and besides, shootin' an attacker with a bb gun would just pis_ them off. You'll be 99 99/100ths% safe. Millions of hikers hike millions of miles every year and there was only a couple of incidences.

    The mosquito headgear I'd keep. It weighs nothing and the mosquitos and blackflies can still be miserable at that time of year. I hate using bugspray, but it's a personal preference. You probably won't need anything above tree line, but that isn't always true. It's when you stop that they swarm. Makes fall and winter hiking much more enjoyable in the Whites.

    Is there really any BAD weather???

  2. #12
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    Many people in this area also discourage camping below tree line. If you find a spot below tree line within the guidelines of the WMNF that is great, but its not easy to do. Afterall, you are on the side of a mountain.

    The White Mountains are a relatively small area with an extreme amount of human traffic. I encourage you to stick to the dedicated tent sites. Either way, remember to leave no trace.
    Last edited by Bill O; 04-06-2008 at 09:12 AM.
    Next up: Vermont City Marathon: May, 2011

  3. #13
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    Wayne New Jersey
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    Default camping in the Whites

    As has been stated in previous post, the smart thing to do is to stick to the "Official" campsites. The White mountains are very fragile and get many feet passing over them. The campsites are there to help protect the fragile enviornment. With proper planning it is possible to do the traverse and camp in the offical sites with little problem. There are sites on the Appalachia side, sites in the Great Gulf, sites at Tucks, sites in the Dry River, and sites at Mizpah. As far as gear goes the traverse can be done with a very light pack. Just make sure you have the gear for if the weather turns bad and you will be set. Remember you can get a really good meal at the top of Washington (best chillie) and the huts have endless soup for a couple of dollars. The huts will also feed hikers breakfast left overs for a couple of dollars. No reason to carry much food. Do the traverse light but smart and you will have an awesome time!!

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