global warming everywhere

[Steve M]

Maybe he was trying to get to New York City to get a job

[Patrad Fischroy]

I heard it was an audition for Bullwinkle, the musical on Broadway

[Brad]

Very interesting article and study. Makes you wonder.

http://www.surfacestations.org/odd_sites.htm

[Steve M]

The funny thing is that most people don't give that a second thought. They don't realize the affects of the surroundings. People can make things look however they want them to look cant they.

[Brad]

Another interesting research article. Conclusion is = watch out for global cooling.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/f...4068db11f4&p=4

[Steve M]

Great article, it has been my feeling all along that global warming was not as much a man made issue but a climatic one. We have almost no power over our global climate change. It's far bigger than us.

[Brad]

And another article. It sure makes you wonder about the hype.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

[Puck]

And another article. It sure makes you wonder about the hype.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/othervi...REF30b.article

Makes me wonder why you guys buy this stuff hook line and sinker. I have yet to meet a skeptic. A skeptic would scrutinize both sides of the debates, question all credendtials and funding, set some standards regarding integrity and conflict of interest.

Here to get you started:

1. Who is James M Taylor?
2. What are his credentials?
3. What is the Heartland Institute?
4. Who funds the Heartland Institute?
5. What other major controversy have the Heartland Institute been involved in that involves a huge industry in the US that has faced law suits and bans on the state and municipal level?
6. Why would this editorial appear this week? (Hint: What large event on July 7 is being produced by Al Gore?)
7. Are Taylor’s citations complete?
8. Are the quotes Taylor uses complete? I.e. do they convey the entire message of the article from which they came?
9. Are the quotes current or were they current at the time of the making of “An Inconvenient Truth”
10. Are Taylor’s references easily verified?
11. Can you identify the use of any logical fallacies in the editorial?
12. Why would a desert in Africa Shrink? Where is this “Shrinking desert”? Is the shrinking related to climate?
13. What happens to the temperature of the air surrounding ice as it melts?
14. Who else has challenged Gore’s prediction of 20’ gain of sea level due to the Greenland meltdown?
15. What is the name of the most recent book that tracts the topic of Global Warming and Hurricanes? (It presents the arguments by both Gray and Emmanuel)

[Bill O]

Ever here of the silent majority?

While I very much like protecting the environment I do not subscribe to the global warming hype.

Seems like most global warming studies involve more passion than science.

Has anybody seen the latest issue of Backpacker Magazine? It is one of the most extreme left wing global warming bs issues I have ever seen. I guarantee not one of their 50+ doomsday predictions will come true.

For those of you alive in the 70's (not me), how quickly we have forgotten the doomsday ice age forecast. Ironically, all of the perils forecast in the coming ice age are identical to the perils forecast for the impending global warming.

I think that MWO should tread lightly on this issue as extreme views on this topic tend to turn off many people. Right now there is a fine line between education and alarmism.

[Brad]

I am all for understanding facts - gaining understanding - and education. I do remember the global ice age predictions and that did not last long. We can be sure the climate will change. There will be cycles and extremes. We happen to be in a time where we are measuring and watching things, which is good.

It is hard to define a trend off a single data point - which in the larger scheme of things is what we are able to see right now.