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    Here is some Washington state rescue information. Not sure it answers your initial question though:

    Washington Rescue Laws

    On the off-topic part of this thread: I consider my life far to valuable to throw it away for something like a sprained ankle in the backcountry.
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    Thanks, Bill. Very interesting info. It doesn't address my question totally, but it does provide a link to contact someone so I did! If I hear back, I'll post their reply.

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    I heard Rosie O'Donnell was making some brilliant comments this morning about the costs. Thankfully, the experts fired back and pretty much summed up exactly what I said earlier in this thread:

    "I just want to reach out and grab her neck," he said. "I mean, literally. This is not stupid money. This is important money. This is about people's lives."

    At $6,500 a day, many may question the cost of the elaborate rescue effort, but Wampler said the bill is misleading. His crews would be working anyway and 90 percent of the rescuers are volunteers. It is not even costing the military extra money because the mission is being tagged as training.

    "We can either spend our time in a simulator or a simulated environment or we can get the best experience in a real world situation like this," said Capt. Mike Braibish with the Oregon National Guard.
    Another thing. The financial benefits of climbers coming to OR or WA far outweighs the cost of any rescue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bruno
    again whoa! so if ya call in and ya don't happen to have yer insurance handy or most likely ya don't have any, they say "tough luck, pal, die"?

    but this whole discussion begs the question which opens up a whole other can o' worms which is the ethics of carryin' phones and radios and beacon and such truck into da backcountry in da first place! me, i'm against it. our grandpappies didn't. i think it makes us less, well i'll say it--men. that's my honest opinion. i think all these devices take away from the adventure.

    allright, let's throwdown!!
    Bruno and I on the same page on this (see my previous post on other threads) no electronic gear in my backpack. A compass and a map.

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    I live just over the bridge from Portland in WA state. The Portland noon news just reported that they have called off the search. The weather is nasty again today. They said they "may" make one more attempt to look later in the week but more than likely, they report it will now become a recovery mission in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ineedsun
    Thanks, Bill. Very interesting info. It doesn't address my question totally, but it does provide a link to contact someone so I did! If I hear back, I'll post their reply.
    If anyone is interested, I got the following reply to my inquiry:

    Thank you for your email regarding the cost of rescue operations. Here
    in Washington, state law assigns responsibility for search and rescue to
    the chief law enforcement officer of each jurisdiction. As with other
    law enforcement services, there is no direct billing to the victims or
    their families.

    The cost of search and rescue operations in State of Washington is
    actually quite low due to one key factor: volunteers. Search and rescue
    units are volunteer organizations made up of your fellow citizens who
    have chosen to serve their communities.

    There are, of course, some costs associated with this. Depending upon
    jurisdiction, the on-scene commander is usually a deputy sheriff or in
    the case of Mt. Rainer and Olympic National Parks, a park ranger. As
    noted above, these costs come out of the jurisdictions law enforcement
    budget. The state does provide some limited support for volunteers in
    the form of reimbursement for medical expenses resulting from injury or
    for lost or damaged personal property. The single greatest expenditure
    for a search and rescue incident would be the training for and conduct
    of field operations if that were not done by our volunteers at no cost.

    The U. S. military does assist us in some search and rescue operations
    when requested and when it does not interfere with their military
    duties. In general, this is done using funds already allocated to them
    for training. Military air crews I have spoken with over the years
    value highly the experience gained from flying actual search and rescue
    missions. This is especially true of those whose military mission
    involves search and rescue such as the Navy unit at Whidbey Island Naval
    Air Station.

    It may also be helpful to note here that, although they receive much
    media attention, search and rescue operations in the mountains
    constitute a very small fraction of the approximately 700 search and
    rescue missions conducted in the state each year. By far, most missions
    involve ordinary citizens who find themselves in distress either in the
    outdoors, or increasingly, in or near their own communities.

    I hope the above information has been useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill O
    I have no idea, but I am almost certain the tax payers pay for the rescue. As is the case in the rest of the United States.

    Part of living in an incredibly wealthy and compassionate country is the responsibility of caring for any person in need. Whether its a lost hiker, hunter or mushroom picker to a family trapped in a burning house or the people who chose not to evacuate New Orleans.

    As far as the Mount Hood rescue how did they break down those costs? As far as I am concerned the cost has been nothing. Many rescuers are volunteers. Those who are not are on fixed salaries or are in the military. Much of the air support was military so they have fixed costs. The only variable is the fuel costs, but this is easily offset by quality training time gained.
    like i said in another thread that I'm a volunteer sar team and if i leave work i DO NOT get paid and that is the way it is for most that volunteer .
    i even have a bloodhound that is mine and i pay for everything .
    as far as supplies as in the hood search a lot was most likely donated .

    in the US there are a lot of people that help because it feels good to help and not look for pay .
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