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    Quote Originally Posted by KD Talbot View Post

    Just a friendly warning: If you use a Swiss Bob on a 4k hike it nullifies the hike and you can't count it according to AMC rules.

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    What about skis? Does it count if you make a winter ascent with skis and then use them to descend? If that's true then there are thousands of people who have climbed Denali using skis on the lower part of the mountain as a mode of transport both up and down.

    Does that mean you can't glissade either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill O View Post
    What about skis? Does it count if you make a winter ascent with skis and then use them to descend? If that's true then there are thousands of people who have climbed Denali using skis on the lower part of the mountain as a mode of transport both up and down.

    Does that mean you can't glissade either?
    The official rules are here: http://www.amc4000footer.org/faq.htm#rules1

    The way it reads you can use ski down in the winter although apparently sleds don't count (even though it isn't specific about that). Doesn't mention glissading either. Maybe that's a matter of whether it is planned or not. There's a long thread on this subject on VFTT: http://www.viewsfromthetop.com/forum...ad.php?t=14218. The consensus there seems to be skis OK (as long as you wear or carry them up), sleds not OK for the same reason as bikes and glissading - who knows. That leads me to the question of the pants with a built-in sled on the seat that Kirk mentioned on another thread. If it's part of your pants is that just an "assisted glissade"? All very technical indeed
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    Mark's pretty well got it covered in the last post. Anybody that climbs anything, especially Denali, on skins or carrying their skis, then skis down, or part way down, is OK as far as I'm concerned.

    These rules only apply to the NH 4K's and only apply if going for a NH 4k patch according to the rules of the AMC 4000 Footer Committee. (I won't take this opportunity for more AMC bashing from me about rules, etc.)

    I go to the mountains partially to get away from rules, though I follow strict, somewhat self imposed guidelines while I'm there.

    If people want to make up their own rules about doing the 4k's in winter for their own pleasure, I say "Go for it!" Hike your own hike, as they say. I can think of some great places to Swiss Bob down from the 4k's. North Tripyramid Slide comes to mind. Huntington Ravine. Lincoln's Throat. Could be a whole new world of Extreme Swiss Bobbing out there for us to discover!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KD Talbot View Post
    If people want to make up their own rules about doing the 4k's in winter for their own pleasure, I say "Go for it!" Hike your own hike, as they say. I can think of some great places to Swiss Bob down from the 4k's. North Tripyramid Slide comes to mind. Huntington Ravine. Lincoln's Throat. Could be a whole new world of Extreme Swiss Bobbing out there for us to discover!
    Hmmm. How about Extreme Nekid Swiss Bobbing
    OK, now that I said it this is evoking some really disturbing images
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtruman View Post
    Now that you mention it this is what Jamie's posture looks like at the beginning of most hikes. Fortunately once she's out there she really enjoys it. Just have to get past the first mile and then it's usually all good. That first mile is a whole 'nuther story though...
    Yes, what is it about that first mile? Both Alex and I usually look exactly like that when first starting out. Once that first mile is past, it's all very, very good. Maybe the adrenaline kicks in and the natural high starts..?

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    Great shots! I laughed out loud over 'we apparently killed her'. Thanks for the post.
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