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    Default Looking to see how the tuckermans ravine trail and lions head trail are!!

    Hello a friend and I are planing on hiking to the summit of mt wash on either sat or sunday 11/20-11/21. I have not climbed mt washington befor and was curious how the trails are during this time of the year. Any information will be helpful including gear for this time of the year. I have insulated boots and clothing. I have a backpack with 2 liter bladder, and trecking poles. Plenty of food. Cell phone with 2 spare batteries, compass, matches, space blanket, whistle. My cell phone has a gps tracking app. and I have a printed topographic map.

    If anyone can recommend any additional gear please let me know.


    Jamie

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    Jamie, for the higher elevations I would expect varying snow conditions probably not that deep, but I would absolutely bring at minimum an ice axe & crampons.....I'm down in Florida until mid December so I've haven't been on the trail recently, but from prior history I would guesstimate the snow level near 4000' maybe lower


    stay safe out there & best of luck for a fun climb, Tim



    p.s. probably reinventing a wheel here but:
    hiking this time of year very much depends on the weather the day of your climb! It could be nice 40ish degrees, but then again could be negative degrees with wind chill.... so look into all that for the days leading up & plan accordingly.
    Here are a couple of links to monitor http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/forecast.php AND http://www.mountwashington.org/weath...t_forecast.php
    Last edited by smithtim; 11-18-2010 at 06:49 PM.
    'when it starts to hurt your nearly halfway and probably should get out those ropes & put your crampons on"

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    I would also suggest taking advantage of the great info provided here:

    http://www.mountwashingtonavalanchecenter.org/

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    Thank you for posting that information. I have all the nessasary equipment. I have looked at the weather reports daily and so far it seems to be in the upper 30's (still chilly)
    I hope the weather holds.

    When you get back here and would like to climb mt washington again, please drop me an email. I would like to join the 4000 footer club and this climb starts it. I am also willing to climb in the winter because i would like to get the winter patch too.

    Jamie

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    Today's higher summits forecast pretty much says it. Highs around 10F with wind chills 10 to 20 below. Winds 40-55 today and 70-90 with higher gusts tomorrow. In those conditions it's beyond insulated boots and clothing. Full face protection and goggles for sure. Multi-layer hand protection (gloves with over mittens). Definitely need to take the ice axe and crampons as well. The tricky thing this time of year is that the conditions are transitional. You may be in snow or you may be on icy rocks with little other cover. Also remember that the summit buildings are officially closed for the season so there is no place to get inside at the top. Be safe and don't be afraid to turn back if you feel you're getting to your limit.
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    To see how the conditions have been the past few days, check out the image archive. That also includes web camera images and Conditions page for the past several years. These can be found at http://public.fotki.com/MWO/saved/2010/
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    I agree with everyone else I would also bring microspikes you can walk on snow ice and rocks with out worring about damage. also bring a bivy sac or sub zero bag. If you are stuck up there and the weather the basement of the lake of the clouds hut is unlocked and you can take shelter there in an emergcy

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    not so sure if I'd be comfortable with just spikes?

    If you are worried about damaging your crampons that is one thing, but I'd be more concerned with keeping good safe footing. I'd much rather mess up a pair of $70 crampons than go sliding down the side of tucks..... anyways a good file and a little TLC can repair most rock damage done to the crampons
    'when it starts to hurt your nearly halfway and probably should get out those ropes & put your crampons on"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettechjamie View Post
    Thank you for posting that information. I have all the nessasary equipment. I have looked at the weather reports daily and so far it seems to be in the upper 30's (still chilly)
    I hope the weather holds.
    I am not sure where you are looking for the weather conditions. The Observatory's Conditions page shows the temp never got above 8 F all day today starting at day light. Wind chills have been -20 F and lower most of the day. And the wind hit 69 MPH this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithtim View Post
    not so sure if I'd be comfortable with just spikes?

    If you are worried about damaging your crampons that is one thing, but I'd be more concerned with keeping good safe footing. I'd much rather mess up a pair of $70 crampons than go sliding down the side of tucks..... anyways a good file and a little TLC can repair most rock damage done to the crampons

    I agree with you tim i would bring crampons as well for the ravine but I bet there isnt much snow on summit cone and the micros would be ideal for that part of the ascent in my mind I hope vetechjamie goes up lion head instead of the ravine and If this is his first climb I hope he knows when he should turn around. I was in gorham yesterday and there wasnt much snow up on madison but those winds are gonna be killer

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